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Next MLPA meeting--April 28 (Tues) in Oxnard
This is an important meeting as RSG reps now take guidance from the Blue Ribbon Task Force and Science Advisory Team data and feedback (supposedly with new 0-30 m fine-scale data) and battle it out to narrow the current 10 maps down to 5.
You can give talking points, or cede your time to another kayak fisherman, or person to speak. April 28, 2009 Residence Inn by Marriott 2101 West Vineyard Ave. Oxnard, CA 93036 Anyone from SD crazy enough to drive up there? :you_rock: From Terry Maas, Spearo rep. Speakers, The state is requesting that only comment directed toward Regional Stake Holder Members is appropriate. I think what is meant by this is that information directed toward the stakeholders can include: 1. Specific locations advice ie, your views on PV, LaJolla, Malibu etc. 2. Issues of water quality 3. Size and spacing of reserves 4. Local knowledge of habitat missed by the SAT at specific locations 5. Your views on the size of some of the proposals, ie External C 6. Your views on favoring a specific array proposal, ie-the FIN/FIC--External A 7. Comments on how specific proposals will affect you 8. Perhaps suggest a go-slow approach with an eye to re-evaluation in 5 years as is required by the plan. Public comment is limited to Tuesday only at 3pm. Joe Nguyen will help organize the speakers Anyone staying after the meeting is invited to discuss the meeting and the process at dinner at a local restaurant, location TBA. Terry |
It is time to rally, there will not be many more chances.
I am taking a vacation day. I hope you ALL will too. A 3 hour drive will suck, but losing fishing grounds, and not participating in the process, and not having your voice heard, will suck more. Let's take on those spearos mano a mano in greater attendance. ;):D Let's get some carpooling, whatever, you need to do to get up there. I might have some room in lil CRV, waiting to here back from others. If anyone is going from SD, and has room in your car, POST UP! Our Reps need our support, we need to show up in force. chris :you_rock: |
Bump! :)
I forgot to add.... The time scheduling is TBD, but likely around 1pm for public comment, I will post more time specifics, as I hear them. chris |
Come on up - your stakeholder reps need your support.
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If I can get the day off, I'm in.
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Kurt, let me know we can carpool... :cool:
To be honest, I can't believe more Kayak Fishermen are not rallying, and making time to attend this meeting... This is not like a MLB season with 162 games... Think of it as game 3 World Series, not many chances left to attend a game. Please support Paul, and MJ. Many Speardivers are supporting Terry Maas, and Eric Kett. Many Bders are posting thousands of threads on nonesense, and a few are attending... :D Thanks, Chris |
I wish I could come along, but I cannot take the 28th off work - it's my busiest day of the month, actually. Hopefully some others can step up & get up there to represent. I will do my best to make the next one.
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Workin' on trying to get a sitter. I'd love to make it. Thanks for giving us the heads up, Chris.
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Bump.
What part of the maps and closures do we fisherman not get? Only 2 kayak fisherman showed up to the Searocket bistro MLPA mixer after work hours with free food. Only 1 kayak fisherman went to the Dana point meeting that I know of and he is from San Diego. Kurt :you_rock: . I thought that with such a strong kayak community in Dana Point and Orange County that kayak fisherman would have a good showing and us San Diego guys wouldn't have to make the trek. How many guys will miss work and drive all the way to LJ when a squid bite goes off, yet can't be bothered to show up for a few hours at an MLPA event that may ban us from fishing our local grounds forever. Letters and emails I am sure have some impact, but nothing like showing up will. If we want to have a positive impact we should make ourselves seen and heard. If they are really going to narrow the 10 maps down to 5 at this meeting our fate could be sealed if they pick the wrong 5 :eek:. |
Great points Tyler, you ought to post this up on www.kayaksportfishing.com and http://baytuber.informe.com/index.php they are the main boards up north of SD.
If you are attending, be sure to state you are kayak fisherman, ie a consumptive recreational angler. There are some who think kayakers are just the people in la jolla who check out the sea caves, and sea gaze. With my kayak fishing record this year, I guess I fit into that category! :o:doh: PS: you can cede your time, if you do not feel comfortable talking, sh*t I'll use it! ROLL CALL!!!! chris |
Chris, go ahead and post it for me, or link it to here. They never let me register at www.kayaksportfishing.com . I am not a member of Baytubers either. I don't want to lurk an anymore sites without adding anything :biggrinjester: .
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Bump. come on guys. 15+ people comment on some dumbass getting pasted in the surf, 20+ people will argue about the latest fish report, and almost no one will comment on the MLPA, lend their support or go to a meeting or MLPA mixer?
If the MLPA closes LJ, Point Loma, and Cardiff, there will be almost no more kayak big fish reports from San Diego. Although we may get some new surf videos of our new launch sites to argue about. I can't believe the guides and businesses with the most to lose have not even commented on the process or lent their face and name to fight against it. |
I will double check with the Boss man tomorrow and if he gives me the day off I am doing the drive! C'mon everybody it is extremely important that we get to this meeting and show people that LJ is so important to us. I know a ton of you guys have sick days saved up so take one and let's roll on up, I will post tomorrow if I can go for sure and if so I have room for 3 more people and you don't have to contribute any gas money I will cover it!! Out of excuses yet????????????
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Awesome Matt! I think Jim Sammons is looking for a ride, check out his surf class thread.
It would be great to have local LJ guides, and kayak fishing vendors attend this meeting, and testify on the negtive economic impact their businesses will have, due to the Marine Life Protection Act Initiative. |
Sweet Matt, one more.
I didn't go to the dana meeting and regret it now after hearing about the lack of fisherman. I hear the spearos had great numbers there. I hope we can at least match that. There are more guys that kayak fish than spearfish. On top of that kayak fisherman and spear fisherman have the most in common. |
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Or we can take him along....let him speak up...I'm literally 2 min off LC Ave W, easy pick up. Count me in...:you_rock: |
You should take Clay & have him speak too. Nobody can resist the pleas of a cute kid.
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Might not be a bad learning experience for Clay to see "our" Government at work either! T Man is in fo' sho' who else needs to bum a ride?? I should have an answer posted by tonight but I am 90% sure I am gonna roll! Come on guys this is the crunch time, put your time in and let's effect some positive change!!
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Like Tman, what are the (approximate) times of departure and return?
Thanks, D |
Dennis, we are leaving at 4:30am, and playing it by ear when to come back due to traffic. We'd like to get back as early as possible, but have kept open the option of dinner until traffic is reasonable.
Matt's Taxi may have different options. Post up Matt, thanks for offering your shuttle service. :cool: chris |
Waiting for the word back, but my plan is to follow Chris......not to complex of a plan...but should work just fine although I will be picking up Tman once I get the boss's OK!
So got 1 or 2 seats left depending if Clay is rolling with us! |
I am seriously thinking of pulling him out for a day, explain to this teacher why, and taking him would be a good experience for him.
Let them hear it from the younger perspective...still pondering the idea... Plus, when he gets up to speak, somebody can whack him on the arm and get the tears going...nice effect...just kidding, whoever took that serious has serious issues...besides, he'd definitely tag back..:sifone: Thanks Matt.... |
Right on Martin, and Clay the fish catcher!!! :you_rock:
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Bring Clay and blow up a pic of him with a nice yt. Maybe this one:
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...9/IMG_2618.jpg Had to dig in my picture archive for a while to find this one. Political types can't get enough of kissing babies and smart looking kids. |
According to Matt, I'm riding shotgun!
The last I heard Matt's boss will decide the carpool situation and the fate of our fishery.
I've cancelled clients for Tuesday and trust me you don't want to ride in my designated fishing vehicle :puke:. |
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Ha, I remember that one, that was Ice's YT...if I recall correctly...Ice, ya there? I like this one mo' better... http://momentoffame.com/photopost/da...1st_YT_016.jpg Not bad for a 6 yr old...dang it, where's that WSB pic? Thanks Tyler....you know you're a good dude... |
Well, there you have it.
Chris Tyler Kurt Martin Clay Matt Josh Dennis (pending) Not a bad start, hopefully some of our nothern brothers will be attending. We still need more La Jolla fishermen, I am giving the OK for anyone to call in sick on Tuesday... Direct your boss to me. :boxing_smiley: |
Alright fellas....I am in 100% got Tman and Clay(?) rolling with me so definitely have room for one more or a lil person or gnome!?! So what's up I know some of you guys have sick days and such, and some of you are laid off from work, so really there is no excuse c'mon let's do this so we can see Clay grow up and catch lots more fish and share the love we all have for this beautiful over abundant slab of ocean we call LJ!!! Bakersfield? Ventura? Malibu? HB? San Clemente? Where you fellas at? Put your time in where your mouth is!!! STEP UP!!! There has got to be more people who want to go and need to go!!!!
All you guides get your ass up there! C'mon fellas this is FREEKIN' GO TIME!!!! GET OFF YOUR ASSES AND MOBILIZE MAKE NO MISTAKE THIS IS A FIGHT/WAR TO PRESERVE YOUR RIGHTS AS A FISHERMAN!!! There has got to be more than 8 dudes willing to roll?! POST UP IF YOUR GOING! I see a large portion of the dudes are Old School guys how about all you new guys that have slayed some spawning seabass as of late??? Do you ever want to do that again in LJ?? PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTHS ARE!!! Or how about you guys who finally got your first YT?????? Why aren't you doing the drive??? Come on fellas WE NEED TO GO TO THIS MEETING AND EVERY OTHER ONE THAT WE CAN AND KEEP WRITING LETTERS TOO! SERIOUSLY LET'S GO! |
Right on guys, that's great.
The more people show up, the better. With my situation, I can't commit to anything these days... Thanks Chris for all your hard work and efforts. :cheers1: |
I'm sorry guys, I just tuned in and I have no reason to miss this. I have a small freelance job but I am my boss and he said it's ok.:2in1:
Who has a bus? |
Martin, pm me your email if you want that pic. Or I can get it printed out. I think it would be great if Clay had a copy of each of those pics with him to show off and talk about how he wants to be able to keep fishing LJ.
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Good idea Tyler, I'll talk to him about it tonight, see if we can get his arse to speak. Extra Credit for school?
I have a couple others, surf fishing, fish taco dinner, etc...I'll scrounge them up. Maybe hearing a grom's perspective will open them up. PM sent... |
Is anybody heading up from the OC?
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Alright, I'll email the pic when I get home. Even if Clay doesn't make it bringing in those photos would have an impact I think.
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My car is full my crew is: Gino, Tman, Me and Clay:cheers1:
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Thanks Matt...game on...Clay is gung-ho...anything to miss school...
But...part of the stips for him going is that he has to stand up and speak. We can touch on what he needs them to hear on the drive up. I'll make some sammiches for the trek. And I'll bring a pillow for the drive...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
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