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PAL 09-22-2008 11:08 AM

Sands of Sorrow - Which launches eat the most gear?
 
It's not a matter of if but when Neptune will demand his due. On the paddle out but more often on the dicey dance in, the old man with the trident in hand requires periodic tribute. Where are his tolls on tackle, fish, and most of all pride the steepest?

Where are the Sands of Sorrow? Any beach can be a bastard, but which common (although advanced) launches cause the most havoc? I'm looking for stories and photos for a future newspaper or magazine article.

For starters, here in the southland I hear certain beaches below Ensenada are legendary for giving up big game riches - and the rough ride back in. Up in Malibu, County Line's chewed up and spit out more than its share.

What your take?

One Rev 09-22-2008 11:16 AM

Big Rock in La Jolla. I have launched there with ankle slappers and paddled back in to 3' shorebreak. I destroyed my rudder one time and numerous times had to dive back in and retrieve other items. I have a couple of pictures too if you need them.

Mike
One Rev

eddier68 09-22-2008 11:29 AM

IB at times:eek:

Zed 09-22-2008 11:30 AM

Aliso.

But by sheer volume, it must be Disneyshores.

esdees 09-22-2008 12:24 PM

http://bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/showthread.php?t=2431

Froman 09-22-2008 12:26 PM

Definately Ave de la playa, at times, I am required to pick up my float tube, and step over a wave. :rolleyes: No me gusta! :mad:

Fro

aguachico 09-22-2008 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Froman (Post 29494)
Definately Ave de la playa, at times, I am required to pick up my float tube, and step over a wave. :rolleyes: No me gusta! :mad:

Fro

:D

Handymansd 09-22-2008 02:39 PM

Didn't Patrick have a great shot of a kayak endo at the shores from two winter's ago? I know he was waiting for me with camera in hand a time or two when the surf was up.:cool:

esdees 09-22-2008 02:54 PM

That was Tyler...

I only get the camera out when Art's in the surf :D

Handymansd 09-22-2008 05:01 PM

OK that's it... in my mind you two are now officially synonymous!!:o

tylerdurden 09-22-2008 05:54 PM

Any exposed beach can be a nightmare.

Got shorebreak?
http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...1/IMG_3324.JPG

Or outside breakers :eek:
http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...1/IMG_3251.JPG

Endless rollers that could break any time:
http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...1/IMG_3301.JPG


The popular tourists at the shores?

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r..._2100_crop.jpg

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r..._2043_crop.jpg

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r..._2135_crop.jpg
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r..._2136_crop.jpg
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r..._2137_crop.jpg

Billy V 09-22-2008 06:34 PM

Ahh the famous Lj Shore Catapult Maneuver :D

T-Rex 09-22-2008 07:47 PM

Normally pretty mellow, but sometimes Sano can be pretty challenging.

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...IMGP1251-1.JPG

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...0/IMGP1237.JPG


A little size at the launch.
http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall.../IMGP0206a.jpg

THE DARKHORSE 09-22-2008 08:07 PM

Great photos.....
 
I can't compete with those great photos, but my vote is for the most tame launch on the west coast (La Jolla Shores). Beside the tiny surf compared to launches anywhere else on the coast, we have way more fisherman launching here. I would love to know the dollar amount of expensive gear that's been burried here, as it's truly a goldmine. Countless Trinidads, Avets, Accurates, Toriums, Calstars, Seekers, and much much more. I know the less protected launches require more guts and skill, but I don't think you could compare any other launch for the total damage in a dollar amount.

Slay Rider 09-23-2008 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE DARKHORSE (Post 29507)
I can't compete with those great photos, but my vote is for the most tame launch on the west coast (La Jolla Shores). Beside the tiny surf compared to launches anywhere else on the coast, we have way more fisherman launching here. I would love to know the dollar amount of expensive gear that's been burried here, as it's truly a goldmine. Countless Trinidads, Avets, Accurates, Toriums, Calstars, Seekers, and much much more. I know the less protected launches require more guts and skill, but I don't think you could compare any other launch for the total damage in a dollar amount.

What he said - we have all seen a ton of gear lost there. And I think it has to do with the short interval waves as much as the typical inexperience of the average angler who cuts their teeth at the shores.

bajadog 09-23-2008 04:16 AM

+2 for darkhorse

bearlythere 09-23-2008 08:59 AM

Dream Killers.
 
That last shot of T-rexs pics was my worste lanch and eroe day at LJ...Remember our dream killer converation that morning at the launch with Tyler....Breakers way on the out side just as you thought you were gonna be safe....T-rex has a few good shots of that day that got put on Bloody Decks....Was a clinic that day....I think the night before a couple of the regulars did the el rollo as well.

cabojohn 09-23-2008 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zed (Post 29490)
Aliso.

But by sheer volume, it must be Disneyshores.

x100 :kayak-surfer: Aliso is the real deal!
Aliso is about the only place I know that can destroy a kayak and everything on/in it! Heavy joint tweaking is possible here too. Ditch the kayak and save yourself is par for the course!

This is a HEAVY shore pound beach! There is no shame in just saying NO when its thumpin! :notworthy:

Ed 09-23-2008 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabojohn (Post 29522)
There is no shame in just saying NO when its thumpin! :notworthy:

Yes there is..........:D

Tman 09-23-2008 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-Rex (Post 29506)
Normally pretty mellow, but sometimes Sano can be pretty challenging.

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...IMGP1251-1.JPG

And the whole time Clay was egging me on to go out further...:doh:

I know a couple of places that when it is at high tide with surf, all you can do is a Superman (jump off and hold onto the back handle of the yak)...

Grego 09-23-2008 01:53 PM

I'll have to consult with my buddy Jack...but I got my ass handed to me a couple times up at the Topanga area in MaliBU. Nice pair of Oakley's and a nemotank...Poseidon has my dues.

Holy Mackerel 09-24-2008 07:32 AM

My old T-120... baja

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g2...t/IMGP0043.jpg

TREvor in baja...

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g2...y_2005_019.jpg

Everything under control here... baja :sifone:

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g2...a/IMGP0069.jpg

T-Rex 09-24-2008 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabojohn (Post 29522)
x100 :kayak-surfer: Aliso is the real deal!
Aliso is about the only place I know that can destroy a kayak and everything on/in it! Heavy joint tweaking is possible here too. Ditch the kayak and save yourself is par for the course!

This is a HEAVY shore pound beach! There is no shame in just saying NO when its thumpin! :notworthy:

Ditto! Aliso gets my vote!

You don't want to get caught going out or coming in by one of these. :eek: :eek: :eek: Bare-sand bone cruncher!

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...re_Pound1.jpeg

rastrev 09-24-2008 10:06 AM

Another good Baja shot, Chris trying to land. No gear lost though...

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...Picture050.jpg

dgax65 09-24-2008 03:52 PM

La Jolla may have mild surf, but it probably takes the prize for total number of ill-fated surf landings and the greatest financial impact of any beach in the world.

I've had my share of pain and shame at La Jolla; however, I have never lost anything of significant value in my poorly planned and executed landings. Breakers Beach at NAS North Island was the site of my single costliest surf launch. I have also had a couple of incidents on Islander trips that have cost me dearly :eek:

Some of our Aussie members might make an argument for the Mona Vale "sand monster" or a couple of other beaches in NSW and Queensland.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkxpKnw43FA

From what I've seen, just about every beach in South Africa would classify as Sands of Sorrow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-Q0Eip2L4A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bb1EjjAE6vM

steveooo 09-24-2008 04:30 PM

Doug,
I will never puss out on a surf launch again.
That was some crazy sheeyat.:D

Handymansd 09-24-2008 10:46 PM

And just think, they are in very fast and efficient ski's... Could you imagine that in a FND?:eek:

Billy V 09-25-2008 09:45 AM

I have come to accept the fact that I will be getting wet during most surf launches.
I do know the Hobie Adventure will cut and punch through good sized surf but to expect a mouth full of water in the process.:D

Its the swamping on the return that I worry about.

I'm not complaining about our Jewel, LJ Shores is still the tamest surf on the coast. IMHO
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b8...D720/ry%3D480/


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