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Jared 08-22-2008 07:53 AM

Not giving the Yellowtail a rest
 
Left work at 2:30P.M. and headed to the launch without much expectation. On the water by 4:00P.M. and we had 4 fish down the hatch by 7:30. Awesome day. Three for me and one for Bailey (which was his first).

Fish #1
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/1d2e21f4e2.jpg

Fish #2
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/0d84b24918.jpg

Fish #3
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/61ec03a475.jpg

Fish #2 & 3
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/238e727269.jpg

and #4
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/b2f47973ea.jpg
Three in the kill sac and one in the lap. Haha.
All of the fish were 20-30lbs.

aguachico 08-22-2008 08:04 AM

Nice going. Good to see the evening bite kicking it.

bajadog 08-22-2008 08:23 AM

Nice.

Troll fish?

reddog 08-22-2008 08:30 AM

way to slayem out there

Dan 08-22-2008 08:33 AM

sick!

Rusty 08-22-2008 08:44 AM

You guys killed it. I like the Hercules shot with the tongue out Jared...lol

Congrats on your first yellow Bailey!!!

esdees 08-22-2008 08:49 AM

Now that's a good evening on the water! Congrats.

Zed 08-22-2008 09:10 AM

Cool Jared!
Good to see you again.

Handymansd 08-22-2008 10:03 AM

:luxhello::luxhello:Congrats... the professor's are in the house!:luxhello::luxhello:

ski 08-22-2008 11:20 AM

Nice score!
:yt::yt::yt:
Any details? Bait, iron etc?

THE DARKHORSE 08-22-2008 11:44 AM

Awesome Jared!
 
Bailey looks pretty stoked, I bet that was cool for you to watch. Any slamming the iron, or all bait?
:yt::yt::yt::yt:=SORE MUSCLE FUN!

rastrev 08-22-2008 05:05 PM

Nice haul guys!

:yt::yt::yt::yt:

:cheers1:

Jared 08-22-2008 07:18 PM

Yo Yo Yo Dog
 
All the fish were on the yo yo. Took me back to my trip to cedros. Haha. We had four others on the jig that we had on for a while and lost. It was a fun night. For sure some soar muscle fun. It was way more fun watching bailey on his fish than it was getting my own. To see someone get their first good yellow is priceless.

805gregg 08-23-2008 06:22 AM

After 2 fish, how about catch and release? There is not an unlimited supply and if you release, you or someone else can catch it again. Plus it might be able to reproduce. 80-120# of fish is alot for 2 people.

tptrench 08-23-2008 07:02 AM

tree hugger
 
Go back to Ojai!!!!!! and stay there!!!!!!

Dan 08-23-2008 10:10 AM

no need to flame. I'm certain all that fish is being well cared for and eaten quickly. Most of us do our part and release a fish and understand the LJ fishery. I personally would rather eat and freeze fish I caught rather than eating restaurant fish that was most certainly caught by seiners and gill nets or asian farms.

Willy 08-23-2008 10:44 AM

Quote:

tree hugger
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<!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->Go back to Ojai!!!!!! and stay there!!!!!!
Seroiusly?
Come on now.

45king 08-23-2008 11:54 AM

Jared barely put a dent on his limits in us waters. why are your panties getting all bunched up?

thien 08-23-2008 01:22 PM

That's what vacuum packers and freezers were meant for.

THE DARKHORSE 08-23-2008 02:04 PM

To harvest or not, a personal decision.......
 
Instead of calling someone a "tree hugger" or pulling the local card, I would like to offer a different perspective. First off, the regulations are set, and no laws were broke. Not to mention between the two anglers they are missing six more Yellowtail to even reach their limit, so why share your negative outlook? (another awesome P.M. opportunity).

I look at La Jolla as "my little stock-pond", just like my family ranch ponds in east and west Texas, that are stuffed with Florida hybrid Largemouth Bass, Channel Catfish, Blue catfish, and Bluegill Perch (the food for the big guys). In our ponds we had quite a few bass over 12 lbs (largest 14 lbs) and catfish over 30 lbs. Occasionaly we would keep the smaller catfish for an afternoon fish fry, but I kinda knew all the giant bass by name. They had their favorite spots for different times of the day (just like Yellowtail), and destroyed multiple different topwater plugs like it was their job (pretty cool). I took great care of these fish (pets), and loved to catch smaller snakes and crickets, then bring a friend over to watch as I let them go by the stump section in the afternoon. We would watch with anticipation, and try to predict just how far that wiggly creature would make it, them BOOM (freaking awesome). As a kid I had snakes as pets also (Pythons and King Snakes), so please no negative comments from snake lovers, and trust me we had plenty of snakes on the property (just like Yellowtail in La Jolla). Today I C and R more than 90% of my catch, but enjoy the harvest as well. I take great pride in seeing a "healthy" fish swim off, and selfishly feel it boosts my fishing karma. I protect the local homeguard Yellowtail, just like my pets in the stock pond, thus the comparison. In some years it's challenging to tell the locals from the transient pelagics. In others such as this year it's real easy, as the squid crop was strong all year, and even the younger homeguards are stupid-fat and healthy. I know some anglers that think only the giant Yellowtail are locals, but we have a very strong crop of Yellowtail that have no plans on leaving, all sizes. A big part of my decision with each Yellowtail is trying to figure out whether this fish is simply passing through, or an established trophy to be (I want my 50 lb+). I know, this may sound trivial to someone who doesn't have an opportunity to fish this great place as often as I do, so take "my opinion" with a grain of salt. "I think" harvesting the transients helps the local crop, by lowering the strain on the deminishing food supply of summer months. I feel it helps insure the strength of "my stock fish" to provide plenty of action during the supposedly slower winter months. I also feel it's a good idea to keep "your harvest practices" to yourself, kinda like political debates, and forcing religion on someone (not well received). The best way to get your point across is to lead by example, and maybe you will end up doing a greater deed, than just giving someone else an opportunity to pull on that fish too.

NO :farmer: HERE, JUST THINKING OUTLOUD.

radastaff 08-23-2008 04:06 PM

nice fish

wish it was me



p

Jared 08-23-2008 05:06 PM

Fishing to be a Pig and fishing to feed the poor.
 
I understand your point and I respect what you say but to be honest, Yellow tail is like gold around my house with four roomates and no money. 2 of the four fish we ate that night and the other two are feeding our family BBQ on Sunday. Haha. Sorry if I offended anyone keeping three fish but to be honest I was amped to see if three was possible on a kayak.

roosta 08-23-2008 06:48 PM

You guys are my heroes of the month! :you_rock:
See you at work... :cheers1:

Rusty 08-23-2008 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 805gregg (Post 28471)
After 2 fish, how about catch and release? There is not an unlimited supply and if you release, you or someone else can catch it again. Plus it might be able to reproduce. 80-120# of fish is alot for 2 people.

805Gregg - Some seiners can bag as much as 20,000 tons per year. That's 40,000,000 (40 Million) Pounds per year, not including by catch. By slaughtering some yellows here and there, and living off that, we are not supporting the 40 Million Pound / year seiners and all their trashed by catch... I don't know if that makes sense, but it seems logical to me.

Read up on it...
http://weblog.greenpeace.org/pacific...es/001648.html

Jared 08-24-2008 08:57 PM

Doubled Up
 
After a slow morning with some rough water and ugly cloud cover, I almost called it a day...

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/4e8e88c7b0.jpg

The result
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/248ab7b481.jpg

Thanks for the photos Larry.

deeberdave 08-25-2008 07:55 AM

Well said Darkhouse,
With our resource being threatened from all sides we have lots more
important things to do than call each other names!!!
Great post:yt::yt::yt::yt::notworthy::notworthy::notwort hy:
THANKS

805gregg 08-25-2008 08:11 AM

I was not trying to tell anyone what to do, it was more of a question. No laws were broken or maybe the laws themself are what's broken. The Ca Fish and Game seem to let everything go as is until there is a problem. Look at the Abalone population or Black sea bass, there are alot less Albacore than in the past. Now some of our channel Islands areas are closed to fishing because of over fishing. I'm not a tree hugger by any means, I don't belong to any groups, I surf, but don't join Surfrider, because of their anti fishing stance. The older I get, the more I see the need to conserve some of our presious resources. I fished Albacore commerically in the early 70's, and we would catch 100 fish an hour on jigs, now look at the Albacore population. I live in Ojai by choice, and plan to stay there, I moved from San Diego 25 years ago, when I saw how crowded it was getting. When I fish now I only keep what I will eat that night and release everything else so hopefully there will be fish when I fish tomorrow. I'm not putting any one down just making suggestions.

aguachico 08-25-2008 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 805gregg (Post 28553)
I was not trying to tell anyone what to do, it was more of a question. No laws were broken or maybe the laws themself are what's broken. The Ca Fish and Game seem to let everything go as is until there is a problem. Look at the Abalone population or Black sea bass, there are alot less Albacore than in the past. Now some of our channel Islands areas are closed to fishing because of over fishing. I'm not a tree hugger by any means, I don't belong to any groups, I surf, but don't join Surfrider, because of their anti fishing stance. The older I get, the more I see the need to conserve some of our presious resources. I fished Albacore commerically in the early 70's, and we would catch 100 fish an hour on jigs, now look at the Albacore population. I live in Ojai by choice, and plan to stay there, I moved from San Diego 25 years ago, when I saw how crowded it was getting. When I fish now I only keep what I will eat that night and release everything else so hopefully there will be fish when I fish tomorrow. I'm not putting any one down just making suggestions.

With that said, your original post is condescending. You are projecting your personal limit on another angler. That's the probelm. You can bust on someone's over priced shimano gear, their peddle craft, their slow ass ugly cobra or funky waders - but when an angler stays within the limits of the CA DFG. Back off and let give them their 5 minutes of fame. If you want to discuss politics, do it on your own post or send them a PM.

BTW: released some nice calis 4#'s Saturday while fishing WSB. SHould kept the mofo's for tacos today.:rolleyes:

Handymansd 08-25-2008 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aguachico (Post 28555)
With that said, your original post is condescending. You are projecting your personal limit on another angler. That's the probelm. You can bust on someone's over priced shimano gear, their peddle craft, their slow ass ugly cobra or funky waders - but when an angler stays within the limits of the CA DFG. Back off and let give them their 5 minutes of fame. If you want to discuss politics, do it on your own post or send them a PM.

My sentiments exactly. :iagree:Please, lets leave the politics out, unless it something that brings us together, or makes us stronger! We have enough problems with all the different opinions and personalities gathered together on these boards. When someone posts their catch it is because they are proud and want to share with others. Bagging on someone's catch is just tacky and bad form.:ack2:

dorado50 08-25-2008 11:48 AM

Classic pic of the two rods bendo, would make for a great picture framed and on the wall!

SDdude 08-26-2008 02:18 PM

Jared,
No need for any apologies or explanations in my book. I was in the same boat once upon a time (a house full of hungry roommates). Besides, what you did doesn't even come close to what guys are pulling in on a good day offshore on a single PB. And don't even get me started on the seiners...

So, congrats to you. And to Bailey for his first YT.

--Raleigh

P.S. - Dude, what happened to the hair? :>) Guess I haven't been by the shop lately.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jared (Post 28500)
I understand your point and I respect what you say but to be honest, Yellow tail is like gold around my house with four roomates and no money. 2 of the four fish we ate that night and the other two are feeding our family BBQ on Sunday. Haha. Sorry if I offended anyone keeping three fish but to be honest I was amped to see if three was possible on a kayak.


dorado50 08-26-2008 03:04 PM

I dedicate all my recent and future dead fish to "805gregg". If only he would bitch and complain to the mexican goverment (and Japaneese)as to what their sieners are doing to fish populations and the effect it has on US waters than just maybe the next generation may have an over abundance of fish! ps. do all your released fish live to see another day? I doubt it. Your a fish killer like the rest of us.lol

habanero 08-27-2008 06:45 AM

Nobody can accuse me of catching too much fish lately but if I do, who among you have a reasonable knowledge of the survivability after releasing a big predator?:bigear:

THE DARKHORSE 08-27-2008 01:01 PM

Nuff said...I catch big fish with horrible scars all the time.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by habanero (Post 28697)
Nobody can accuse me of catching too much fish lately but if I do, who among you have a reasonable knowledge of the survivability after releasing a big predator?:bigear:

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...LIONS_SUCK.JPG
The other side of this fish had some real ugly healing wounds that would of looked like certain death when fresh.


I've caught plenty of Yellowtail and Halibut with obvious scars from Sealions and gaffs that tore out (especially big Halibut with obvious tore out gaff scars that healed nicely). This doesn't mean to ever let a fish go if you gaffed him, never.


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