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Batmann 05-02-2016 07:20 PM

Everingham Bros. Bait Price Increase
 
Just curious if anyone has head what the price of a kayak scoop is going to go up to? It looks like they are increasing prices by $10 for each scoop size but no mention of what a kayak scoop will cost.

http://www.baitbarge.com/bait-prices.html

I heard on the water they were talking about raising the price from $10 to $20. That's a pretty steep price increase.

jdub24 05-02-2016 09:45 PM

bait price
 
Just went last week and fished around newport harbor. I have a hobie bait tank and it cost me $10 for about a scoop of anchovies.

Apex 05-03-2016 06:28 AM

Bait prices haven't changed for sometime.
Im just thankful to have the option .

Iceman 05-03-2016 08:30 AM

June 1st, have not heard about kayak scoop, but am guessing it will go up to $15. Everingham Bros is one of our HOW supporting sponsors. I will check in with them and find out what the "scoop" is.

Denis_Ruso 05-03-2016 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Iceman (Post 260269)
June 1st, have not heard about kayak scoop, but am guessing it will go up to $15. Everingham Bros is one of our HOW supporting sponsors. I will check in with them and find out what the "scoop" is.

SCOOP :hahaha:

Fish Taco 05-03-2016 09:19 AM

All I can say is the $10 scoop I got put in my Malibu Stealth 14 at the San Pedro bait receiver (San Pedro Bait Co.) and the scoop I received from the Quivara Basin bait receiver (Everingham Bros.) were like night and day.

Truthfully, I think Mike (San Pedro) gave me too many... many died off cause too crowded...

...and the guy in Mission Bay was a little light on the scoop, probably could have dropped in a few more... but all in all, rather a lighter scoop and not all die off cause of overcrowding. Next time I may ask Mike to go a little easy...

Iceman 05-03-2016 11:21 AM

Get ready to pay $20 for a kayak scoop come June 1st. The kayak scoop is something done low key............a boater could never pull up and say just give me a kayak scoop, I do not need much. It has been a pretty cool thing to offer that is not advertised at all. I'd hoped for $15, but $20 has been decided. Guys working the barge almost always ask me if it is enough and give me an additional dip, so maybe go in on bait and divide after if you don't think you will need 20-25 sardines.

Batmann 05-03-2016 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Iceman (Post 260288)
Get ready to pay $20 for a kayak scoop come June 1st. The kayak scoop is something done low key............a boater could never pull up and say just give me a kayak scoop, I do not need much. It has been a pretty cool thing to offer that is not advertised at all. I'd hoped for $15, but $20 has been decided. Guys working the barge almost always ask me if it is enough and give me an additional dip, so maybe go in on bait and divide after if you don't think you will need 20-25 sardines.

If you thought the lines slowing down service at the barge were long this summer just wait until all the boaters and kayak fisherman with smaller bait tanks clog up the entrance and exit to the barges splitting up the large scoop sizes and collecting cash.

I've never had a problem with the price or customer service at any of their barges but a 100% price increase is a pretty big jump. There are a lot of boaters with small tanks that can't accommodate a half scoop and are going to have the same problem as kayak fisherman.

Why not offer a 1/4 scoop appropriately priced?

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Jizzling 05-03-2016 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Iceman (Post 260288)
Get ready to pay $20 for a kayak scoop come June 1st. The kayak scoop is something done low key............a boater could never pull up and say just give me a kayak scoop, I do not need much. It has been a pretty cool thing to offer that is not advertised at all. I'd hoped for $15, but $20 has been decided. Guys working the barge almost always ask me if it is enough and give me an additional dip, so maybe go in on bait and divide after if you don't think you will need 20-25 sardines.

Looks like more people are going to be catching their own bait. Its understandable that they may not be making as much profit but 50% of something is better than 100% of nothing. I could be wrong.

Hunters Pa 05-03-2016 11:49 AM

Just don't take it out on the guys at the barge. They likely had nothing to do with it. Tip them well and they will take care of you. More often than not they share the most up to date info and tell me to come back if I need more bait.

Iceman 05-03-2016 12:45 PM

First price increase in 8 years...........sometimes it comes down to raise prices or go out of business.

alanw 05-03-2016 01:08 PM

I would pay $15 plus tip but $20 is too much for a small kayak scoop, unless there's a tournament happening. Mission barge didn't give out enough bait to split, but Dana Point does. I would split it from Dana or just spend an hour making my own bait after the change.

momo fish 05-03-2016 01:18 PM

Wonder if the other guys will follow suit..

PapaDave 05-04-2016 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Iceman (Post 260300)
First price increase in 8 years...........sometimes it comes down to raise prices or go out of business.

Indeed

alanw 05-29-2016 06:16 PM

Dude at the Dana barge was quite confident in telling me today that kayak scoops there were not changing in price. :confused:

mrJB 05-29-2016 07:41 PM

From the good guys that work on the DP barge (names withheld) - the cost of a kayak scoop will remain $10.

BTW, have you noticed that there are always TWO guys now working the barge? Seems some bozo boater got on the barge a while back, fell between the openings, broke his leg, and is suing the company. Easy to guess where that additional revenue will be going...

FullFlavorPike 05-29-2016 07:48 PM

What do you do if you want sardines and don't want to pay? Paddle out and throw a net around? Will 'dines hit the sabiki?

jorluivil 05-30-2016 10:02 AM

As far as I can recall I've only bought bait twice in the last 3-5 years.

About 99% of the time its easy to make so why not catch your own? Throw in a Sabiki 500 and your bait catching percentage will up to 99.999%

YakDout 05-30-2016 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by FullFlavorPike (Post 262177)
What do you do if you want sardines and don't want to pay? Paddle out and throw a net around? Will 'dines hit the sabiki?



Not typically, and usually not in as great of numbers as mackerel, inshore.


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King Saba 05-31-2016 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by YakDout (Post 262246)
Not typically, and usually not in as great of numbers as mackerel, inshore.


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And if you do they're usually horse sized sardines right? Good for Yellows and bigger halibut I say.

PapaDave 06-01-2016 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by alanw (Post 262166)
Dude at the Dana barge was quite confident in telling me today that kayak scoops there were not changing in price. :confused:

Wrong, the price will be $20 for a kayak scoop.

Aside from not raising prices in 8 years, the Bro's were sued by a dude who climbed aboard the receiver (despite all the signs saying not to), fell and broke his leg. It is now necessary to have two people on the receiver now at all times.

Not sure how much that affected the price change but aside from the amount they were sued for the price of their insurance must have skyrocketed.

mrJB 06-01-2016 03:57 PM

THEY LIED...
 
Bait was $20 today despite being told many times over the past few weeks that a kayak scoop would remain $10.

Let's see... some A-HOLE BOATER sues the company so they'll raise boaters' prices 35% or so. AND KAYERS' PRICE 100%. Sure, that's fair. What the f did we have to do with it? What's that, about $1 - $1.50 a sardine? I don't think so... I give the F'inham Bros plenty of my money each year for bait and gratuities and now that's out the door...

Time to invest in more sabikis, put the $20 in my gas tank, and go add to the overcrowding at some other spots...

:the_finger:

momo fish 06-01-2016 04:55 PM

Nice service to have, but bait making is part of the fun and experience...

BIG JOAQUIN 06-01-2016 05:24 PM

Well at the SD bait barge I used to tip to $15. Now they'll get face value for the kayak scoop. I got kids to feed too!

Silbaugh4liberty 06-01-2016 06:31 PM

Any word on the price of a scoop of squid at Newport or Nachos for kayakers?

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alanw 06-01-2016 07:03 PM

Besides Macs, I think I've only caught a few anchovies once on a small sabiki. I don't remember ever catching sardines. If I wanted dines or anchovies I probably don't have a choice but to buy them. But now I'm done with their bait unless someone wants to share a scoop since I usually release more than I use most of the time. 100% increase is ridiculous. They probably don't need our money anyway, the charters alone probably pay their bills. Speaking of charters, I wonder if the sport boats are going to raise prices now to cover the bait increase.

HELLSTER INC. 06-23-2016 06:49 AM

Launched out of mission bay yesterday over to the cliffs with not much to report but figured i would pickup some sardines. I understand the need for bait price increase but $20 for 8, 4-5" sardines is a joke. I asked the guy "that's it for $20" and he replied...yep,be lucky you got that many! I replied, never getting my $20 again. Are they trying to do away with us completely. There die off is probably 10 times what us kayaks buy from them.....

Mahigeer 06-23-2016 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by alanw (Post 262360)
Besides Macs, I think I've only caught a few anchovies once on a small sabiki. I don't remember ever catching sardines.


For sardines, bare hook works best. Silver or gold.

Zed 06-23-2016 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by alanw (Post 262360)
Besides Macs, I think I've only caught a few anchovies once on a small sabiki. I don't remember ever catching sardines. If I wanted dines or anchovies I probably don't have a choice but to buy them. But now I'm done with their bait unless someone wants to share a scoop since I usually release more than I use most of the time. 100% increase is ridiculous. They probably don't need our money anyway, the charters alone probably pay their bills. Speaking of charters, I wonder if the sport boats are going to raise prices now to cover the bait increase.

Wow. I have never ever caught anchovy on a sabiki. Ive snagged them in dense balls but they filter such small stuff from the water a sabiki fly shouldnt interest them.

On topic, never bought bait on the yak and never will.

momo fish 06-23-2016 07:42 AM

Hmm no you got ripped off.. The kayak scoop is at least a dozen to 20 pieces of bait... I would of asked for more or asked for my money back..

Raise the price I understand... Give the customer less than what the standard scoop is.. Heck no


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Originally Posted by HELLSTER INC. (Post 263934)
Launched out of mission bay yesterday over to the cliffs with not much to report but figured i would pickup some sardines. I understand the need for bait price increase but $20 for 8, 4-5" sardines is a joke. I asked the guy "that's it for $20" and he replied...yep,be lucky you got that many! I replied, never getting my $20 again. Are they trying to do away with us completely. There die off is probably 10 times what us kayaks buy from them.....


YakDout 06-23-2016 08:57 AM

Everingham Bros. Bait Price Increase
 
Used to by sardines only once in awhile If I thought making bait would be tough, and only if they were big healthy green sardines. Its never again though with the price increase.

Have any of you guys ever used senioritas for bait? I have caught them a couple times but never tried em.


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HELLSTER INC. 06-23-2016 09:08 AM

I don't normally buy bait but i wanted to mix it up a bit with some sardines....never again. In the past at Dana point i have had to tell them to stop, that's enough. Not the case in San Diego!

Zed 06-23-2016 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by YakDout (Post 263951)
Used to by sardines only once in awhile If I thought making bait would be tough, and only if they were big healthy green sardines. Its never again though with the price increase.

Have any of you guys ever used senioritas for bait? I have caught them a couple times but never tried em.


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Yes. Anything you catch on the sabiki will work as bait.. senorita salema perch croker queenfish lizardfish. Not garibaldi.

alanw 06-23-2016 09:40 AM

Stay away from Mission, total ripoff compared to Dana.

YakDout 06-23-2016 09:55 AM

Did you guys see the episode of BD local knowledge where the guys are using live spotted bay bass and sand bass in la bocana area to fish for the big gulf and broomtail grouper. Pretty cool especially because there isnt a ton of mackerel around that area (the times I have been down there at least).


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stoned-trout 06-23-2016 02:42 PM

not worth it..i will be using more mackeral and smelt I catch myself..prob start fishing for more lizard fish too....


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