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Murray 12-15-2015 07:34 PM

Lowrance Elite Chirp Fishfinders
 
Would like to hear how many of you are using this fish finder and how you have configured it. Seems like taking advantage of the chirp technology is the way to go. With that said, my 50/200 transducer offers high chirp, low chirp, high/low, and non chirp options. If anyone has on the water experience in comparing these various options, it would be great to hear your results. If there are enough users out there, we could probably save ourselves a lot of time by sharing info within this thread.

Raskal311 12-16-2015 06:17 AM

Interested in this info as well, my elite 7 chrip with 50/200 455/800 ducer should arrive any day.

Murray 12-16-2015 06:58 AM

cool. I have been doing my homework so let me know if you have any questions. My first hint is how to take it out of demo mode. Make sure you have the Yes box highlighted in Blue. I struggle with colors (somewhat color blind) so had to call tech support to discover I was actually pressing the No key. I also ended up having to update the firmware to ver 4 since I locked up the system. Lowrance tech support is very good and walked me thru the procedure and answered all of my questions so far. I will be using the Simulator mode today to experiment with the various settings. It simulates a real time environment allowing you to see what your changes do to the display. I got the elite chirp 5 so your 7 should probably make the fish jump into your lap. Ha!

spicolly 12-16-2015 07:09 AM

I bought the Elite-4X CHIRP with the 83/200 455/800 kHz transducer last year...before it came with GPS. Big miss by me as it was my first FF and I didn't realize how useful/valuable GPS was until I started fishing with people who have them.

Regarding the unit, I recently ran into intermittent power issues. Once it powers on, it hasn't lost power. I have played with it all week in my garage and have not been able to recreate the issue...it has powered on just fine without making any changes. However, a few times in the last month I've got out on the water and it wouldn't power up until an hour into my trip on the water. Very frustrating. Here's the post describing the issue with some possible help from the community: http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/s...ad.php?t=27785

From a functional unit, I like it a lot. I switch back and forth between a single and double panel view, depending on what I'm doing (ie., looking for bait, structure, unidentified stuff, etc). I like the downscan capabilities, and have actually seen my line go down and hang out with fish...which is kinda cool.

My opinion, if you want to stay on the lower pricing end, it's a good unit, esp since Lowrance has added GPS on the Elite-5.

Raskal311 12-16-2015 08:58 AM

Have you guys felt the 83/200 455/800 transducer is sufficient in 200 foot of water?

spicolly 12-16-2015 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raskal311 (Post 249421)
Have you guys felt the 83/200 455/800 transducer is sufficient in 200 foot of water?

I haven't gone off shore...mainly stayed inshore @LJ., NW corner, etc...maybe got to 140' - 160' over the summer and it worked fine for locating structure on the bottom. Recently fished inshore at Carlsbad off the power plant and didn't go deep at all. Also fished outside the harbor in O'Side...never got to 200'. So, for the fishing I have done, the 83/200 has been fine for helping me to find bait balls, structure, fish arches, etc. I haven't used a 50/200, so I unfortunately cannot compare it. I do clearly see lots of fish in the shallow MLPA when launching at LJ, which really hurts. :eek:

hiramehunter 12-16-2015 11:52 AM

is Chirp a good option for over 300'?
I usually fish from 200 - 340' range. Would chirp be a good option for that too?

Chuck D 12-16-2015 12:20 PM

50/200 is way better then the 83 for deepwater. Have had both and the 83 hardly works in deep water. It is made for better resolution in shallow water applications.

acorad 12-16-2015 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck D (Post 249437)
50/200 is way better then the 83 for deepwater. Have had both and the 83 hardly works in deep water. It is made for better resolution in shallow water applications.

Great info in this thread!

Chuck, how deep is "deepwater" you are talking about?

200? 400? 1000?

Andy

Chuck D 12-16-2015 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acorad (Post 249440)
Great info in this thread!

Chuck, how deep is "deepwater" you are talking about?

200? 400? 1000?

Andy

I would say deepwater for me is over 150ft. Anything this deep and more that 83 is almost worthless.

YakDout 12-16-2015 01:23 PM

Ive had both 83 and 50. 83 had problems around 150. New hds unit with 50khz is what im running now. Ran over deep spots in la jolla canyon and got readings over 1000 feet. Youre going to lose detail at that depth now matter WHAT you have. But my 83 wouldnt even see the bottom in that kinda stuff.

acorad 12-16-2015 01:29 PM

Thanks Chris & yakdout.

momo fish 12-16-2015 01:35 PM

The man has spoken.. X2..

I ran both types in the water and anything in the mid to high 100's the 83 doesn't show you much bottom structure compared to the 50.. High chirp works great but at times I find using just 200 sufficient in shallow water...


Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck D (Post 249437)
50/200 is way better then the 83 for deepwater. Have had both and the 83 hardly works in deep water. It is made for better resolution in shallow water applications.





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Raskal311 12-16-2015 06:29 PM

I spoke to lowrance several times before ordering and every rep said over 100 feet the 50 is a must but my buddys 83 seem to read ok at 175 feet. I'll do a side by side compare with his as soon as I can.

Murray 12-17-2015 03:12 AM

Believe Down Scan Imaging is good to go for depths under 300 ft. Is anyone using Down Scan Overlay? If so, can you share application and results? I do not fully understand this feature.

JohnMckroidJr 12-17-2015 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hiramehunter (Post 249436)
is Chirp a good option for over 300'?
I usually fish from 200 - 340' range. Would chirp be a good option for that too?

That would depend on the frequency of the chirp sonar. Low frequency (50Khz) is better for deep water, and higher frequency (200khz) is better for shallower water. The best high end sonar boxes are all chirp today, it is a newer technology that uses multilple frequencies simultaneously to produce sharper detail than conventional sonar.

Fishin' Magician 12-17-2015 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Murray (Post 249481)
Believe Down Scan Imaging is good to go for depths under 300 ft. Is anyone using Down Scan Overlay? If so, can you share application and results? I do not fully understand this feature.

I know that this is for a slightly different unit, but this is a video for a Lowrance Elite 4 HDI and in it they discuss how to use the Down Scan Overlay feature over your sonar. I found it to be pretty useful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSH-XE4vVuY

Murray 12-17-2015 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fishin' Magician (Post 249519)
I know that this is for a slightly different unit, but this is a video for a Lowrance Elite 4 HDI and in it they discuss how to use the Down Scan Overlay feature over your sonar. I found it to be pretty useful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSH-XE4vVuY

very helpful video. wondering what colors to choose for us la jolla guys when using the downscan overlay feature. did not notice simulator depth but my simulator is very shallow compared to what we fish in la jolla. thanks again for the input.

Raskal311 12-17-2015 06:23 PM

Ohh crap


Lowrance transducers:

Compatible (Fits Lowrance Ready housing):
000-0106-72 HST-WSBL 83/200 Skimmer Blue Connector
000-10976-001 HDI Skimmer 83/200 + 455/800
000-10260-001 DSI Skimmer 455/800
000-0106-48 HST-WSU Uniplug 83/200 Skimmer

Incompatible (Too large for Lowrance Ready housing):
000-0106-77 HST-DFSBL 50/200 Skimmer
000-11302-001 Airmar TM150
000-11062-001 Airmar P66
000-10977-001 HDI Skimmer 50/200 + 455/800
000-10802-001 StructrureScan HD

surfisher 12-17-2015 07:06 PM

I currently use the Elite 7 Chirp on my boat, 50/200 and 455/800. The Downscan will read all the way to 300'. I have marked schools of yellows on it to that deep, but using chirp or 200khz is my preference. Takes a trip or two to dial in (like any fishfinder), and will take a little getting used to reading the downscan, but what I can say is it makes finding bait 100x easier, and you can distinguish game fish way easier. They will show up as a bright dot (thicker dot for bigger fish) instead of your normal boomerang like the high chirp will show. When you meter a bait school, there will be a hundred tiny little dots. Super nice to use!!!

Murray 12-17-2015 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by surfisher (Post 249537)
I currently use the Elite 7 Chirp on my boat, 50/200 and 455/800. The Downscan will read all the way to 300'. I have marked schools of yellows on it to that deep, but using chirp or 200khz is my preference. Takes a trip or two to dial in (like any fishfinder), and will take a little getting used to reading the downscan, but what I can say is it makes finding bait 100x easier, and you can distinguish game fish way easier. They will show up as a bright dot (thicker dot for bigger fish) instead of your normal boomerang like the high chirp will show. When you meter a bait school, there will be a hundred tiny little dots. Super nice to use!!!

To confirm, you prefer low chirp vs high chirp when fishing deeper water. Do you ever use high chirp? If so, what is max depth you use before changing to low chirp? Have you overlaid down imaging onto sonar display? If I understand things correctly, that would give you best of both technologies (per above video if I remember correctly). Thanks for the input. Probably launching at Oceanside harbor tomorrow to field test my elite chirp 5 with 50/200/455/800 transducer.

Murray 12-17-2015 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raskal311 (Post 249534)
Ohh crap


Lowrance transducers:

Compatible (Fits Lowrance Ready housing):
000-0106-72 HST-WSBL 83/200 Skimmer Blue Connector
000-10976-001 HDI Skimmer 83/200 + 455/800
000-10260-001 DSI Skimmer 455/800
000-0106-48 HST-WSU Uniplug 83/200 Skimmer

Incompatible (Too large for Lowrance Ready housing):
000-0106-77 HST-DFSBL 50/200 Skimmer
000-11302-001 Airmar TM150
000-11062-001 Airmar P66
000-10977-001 HDI Skimmer 50/200 + 455/800
000-10802-001 StructrureScan HD

I have an old outback and purchased a magnetic transducer mount for my 50/200 transducer. Checking out my system tomorrow and will try to report afterwards. Fishfindermounts.com fyi

YakDout 12-18-2015 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raskal311 (Post 249534)
Ohh crap





Lowrance transducers:



Compatible (Fits Lowrance Ready housing):

000-0106-72 HST-WSBL 83/200 Skimmer Blue Connector

000-10976-001 HDI Skimmer 83/200 + 455/800

000-10260-001 DSI Skimmer 455/800

000-0106-48 HST-WSU Uniplug 83/200 Skimmer



Incompatible (Too large for Lowrance Ready housing):

000-0106-77 HST-DFSBL 50/200 Skimmer

000-11302-001 Airmar TM150

000-11062-001 Airmar P66

000-10977-001 HDI Skimmer 50/200 + 455/800

000-10802-001 StructrureScan HD


I have your HST-Dfsbl transducer listed currently in my lowrance ready. 30 second modification. Ive had an ever bigger transducer in before also. Let me know if you want pics.

Raskal311 12-18-2015 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YakDout (Post 249570)
I have your HST-Dfsbl transducer listed currently in my lowrance ready. 30 second modification. Ive had an ever bigger transducer in before also. Let me know if you want pics.

yes please, that would be great!

Dave Legacy 12-18-2015 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Murray (Post 249543)
I have an old outback and purchased a magnetic transducer mount for my 50/200 transducer. Checking out my system tomorrow and will try to report afterwards. Fishfindermounts.com fyi

I have been looking forward to hearing more about these mounts. It seems like a pretty good solution.

Murray 12-19-2015 02:33 AM

Downscan Overlay
 
Here is a link to the best explanation I have read regarding the benefits of Downscan Overlay.

http://www.fishfindersource.com/lowr...-5-hdi-review/

Murray 12-19-2015 02:43 AM

Magnetic Transducer Comments
 
Worked fine in Oceanside Harbor. The reason I went this route is convenience. Did not want to try and install my 50/200 BIG transducer via putty, goop, container with water, etc. I transport my yak upside down on my car so above mounting techniques were a concern. Need to test in the surf to determine whether to attach transducer to the mounting system before or after launch/landing. Probably will be determined by size of surf. When attaching my heavy transducer, magnets slipped a bit on the smooth surface of my yak. Manufacturer is shipping me some rubber pads that should take care of any slipping.

acorad 12-19-2015 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Murray (Post 249597)
Here is a link to the best explanation I have read regarding the benefits of Downscan Overlay.

http://www.fishfindersource.com/lowr...-5-hdi-review/

Great link.

Andy

Dave Legacy 12-19-2015 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Murray (Post 249598)
Worked fine in Oceanside Harbor. The reason I went this route is convenience. Did not want to try and install my 50/200 BIG transducer via putty, goop, container with water, etc. I transport my yak upside down on my car so above mounting techniques were a concern. Need to test in the surf to determine whether to attach transducer to the mounting system before or after launch/landing. Probably will be determined by size of surf. When attaching my heavy transducer, magnets slipped a bit on the smooth surface of my yak. Manufacturer is shipping me some rubber pads that should take care of any slipping.

I bet you could goop the inner magnet in so you can easily pop the transducer into place after a surf launch.

Murray 12-19-2015 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Legacy (Post 249612)
I bet you could goop the inner magnet in so you can easily pop the transducer into place after a surf launch.

No need to goop as the magnets are attached before launch/land. The only item to be attached before or after is the arm that the transducer is attached to. Not a big deal......just do not drop the screw into the water when attaching. Might be a good idea to get a spare just in case.

Murray 12-19-2015 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Murray (Post 249597)
Here is a link to the best explanation I have read regarding the benefits of Downscan Overlay.

http://www.fishfindersource.com/lowr...-5-hdi-review/

After more research, it seems like choosing the page that shows sonar/downscan is the best way to go. Overlay seems a bit difficult to see downscan image when it is combined with sonar. Will test more when I fish la jolla.......deeper water.

markfish 06-10-2016 04:01 AM

Lowrance Elite Chirp series is a popular Fishfinder series in the market
like, Elite-9 and 9x CHIRP models,
Elite-7 and 7x CHIRP models,
Elite-4 and 4x CHIRP and Elite-5 and 5x CHIRP models

I've reviewed all the CHIRP Series, you if you want to buy Lowrance Elite Chirp any models, before buying you can review my articles .

http://fishfindly.com/lowrance-elite-4-hdi-review/
http://fishfindly.com/lowrance-elite-5-hdi-review/
http://fishfindly.com/lowrance-elite-5-chirp-review/
http://fishfindly.com/lowrance-hds-9-gen2-touch-review/
http://fishfindly.com/lowrance-elite-7-hdi-review/


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