Originally Posted by jorluivil (Post 176741)

Isn't it illegal to kill a GWS?

Originally Posted by ROOKIE87 (Post 176743)

It is absolutely illegal, it would be a last ditch effort if i was getting attacked.

For real?....:confused:

Originally Posted by wiredantz (Post 176745)

A flare gun works both ways:D

Originally Posted by ROOKIE87 (Post 176743)

It is absolutely illegal, it would be a last ditch effort if i was getting attacked. And i agree we take the inherent risk because it's their playground, but i always like to be prepared for whatever comes my way. I was even thinking m80's for the vibration, but I do get where you are coming from. I just rather take the precautions if there are any...

Originally Posted by danjor (Post 176757)

My opinion: If its my time to go its my time to go. Plus its highly unlikely it will happen.

Copy paste from natgeo website[/CODE]
SHARK ATTACK FACTS
Surfers accounted for 50.8% of all attacks in 2010.

Swimmers and Waders accounted for 38% of all attacks in 2010.

Snorkelers and divers accounted for 8% of all attacks in 2010.

Inflatable rafts/inner tubes accounted for 3% of attacks in 2010.
2010 was the most dangerous year for unprovoked shark attacks in a decade with 79.

thanks for putting that into perspective brotha, you are right...
Over the last half-century, there have been more unprovoked shark attacks in Florida (27 out of a total 139) between 2-3 pm than any other time of the day.

New Smyrna Beach in Florida is the shark attack capital of the world according to ISAF. It is estimated that anyone who has swam there has been within 10ft of a shark.

September is the month with the most Shark attacks in Florida (93) 1920-2010.

Since 1907 201 out 220 Great White Attacks have occurred when the human was less than 6ft from the surface.

You have a 1 in 63 chance of dying from the flu and a 1 in 3,700,000 chance of being killed by a shark during your lifetime.

Over 17,000 people die from falls each year. That's a 1 in 218 chance over your lifetime, compared to a 1 in 3,700,000 chance of being killed by a shark.

In 1996, toilets injured 43,000 Americans a year. Sharks injured 13.

1n 1996, buckets and pails injured almost 11,000 Americans. Sharks injured 13.

In 1996, 2600 Americans were injured by room fresheners. Sharks injured 13.

The US averages just 19 shark attacks each year and one shark-attack fatality every two years. Meanwhile, in the coastal U.S. states alone, lightning strikes and kills more than 37 people each year.

Since 1959, Florida has had more shark attacks (603) than lightning fatalities (459).

Since 1959, California has had more shark attacks than lightning fatalities (89/30).

Since 1959, Hawaii has had 97 Shark attacks but no lightning fatalities.

Only 5 people die from shark attacks yearly, while millions of people die from starvation.

Since 1905, Natal (where Durban is) has had 89 shark attacks and 27 fatalities.
For every human killed by a shark, humans kill approximately two million sharks.

Originally Posted by Zed (Post 176755)

Hey rookie think about this.
If I lived someplace where I felt the NEED to carry concealed -- other than a LEO-- I would move. If I felt the NEED to carry on a yak Id quit. Simple solution.

Originally Posted by Aaron&Julie (Post 176754)

Stay on your kayak!

If it's concealed, and a GWS has created a last ditch effort by knocking you out of your kayak, and it is so damn aggresive that you don't have the time to get back up on your kayak, then you don't have time to get your weapon. I can remount in less than 30 seconds, probably 5 seconds if a GWS just knocked me into the drink, which is much quicker than trying to get out the "concealed weapon". If you can't remount in 30 seconds, that is what you need to practice on, now.

If he capsized the kayak you won't be able to get to your weapon easily, either, and your best bet would be to jump up onto the bottom of your kayak and lay there until it leaves, after it realizes you're not the food it hoped for. Either way you're screwed when it comes to locating/using a "concealed weapon".

Just my 2 cents.

Aaron

Originally Posted by maui jim (Post 176763)

I have been giving some thought....:confused:
I say you go ask for advise form the "Seal Lady" by the Children's Pool in La Jolla, and ask the always kind, always warm and friendly, and ever knowing "Seal Lady" be sure to show her what you will be using, there might be a caliber restriction, but she will know.. She will most likely sign off on this... and presto...changeo...All Good!!
She does have alot of pull with the local authorties, since she is a pillar of the community.

Just a thought..:cool:

Originally Posted by ROOKIE87 (Post 176765)

Lol, will she bail me out if her info is incorrect?

Originally Posted by danjor (Post 176766)

Only if buy her a seal furr coat. Hence why she is called the seal lady she loves seal.:D

Originally Posted by danjor (Post 176757)

My opinion: If its my time to go its my time to go. Plus its highly unlikely it will happen.

Copy paste from natgeo website[/CODE]
SHARK ATTACK FACTS
Surfers accounted for 50.8% of all attacks in 2010.

Swimmers and Waders accounted for 38% of all attacks in 2010.

Snorkelers and divers accounted for 8% of all attacks in 2010.

Inflatable rafts/inner tubes accounted for 3% of attacks in 2010.
2010 was the most dangerous year for unprovoked shark attacks in a decade with 79.

Over the last half-century, there have been more unprovoked shark attacks in Florida (27 out of a total 139) between 2-3 pm than any other time of the day.

New Smyrna Beach in Florida is the shark attack capital of the world according to ISAF. It is estimated that anyone who has swam there has been within 10ft of a shark.

September is the month with the most Shark attacks in Florida (93) 1920-2010.

Since 1907 201 out 220 Great White Attacks have occurred when the human was less than 6ft from the surface.

You have a 1 in 63 chance of dying from the flu and a 1 in 3,700,000 chance of being killed by a shark during your lifetime.

Over 17,000 people die from falls each year. That's a 1 in 218 chance over your lifetime, compared to a 1 in 3,700,000 chance of being killed by a shark.

In 1996, toilets injured 43,000 Americans a year. Sharks injured 13.

1n 1996, buckets and pails injured almost 11,000 Americans. Sharks injured 13.

In 1996, 2600 Americans were injured by room fresheners. Sharks injured 13.

The US averages just 19 shark attacks each year and one shark-attack fatality every two years. Meanwhile, in the coastal U.S. states alone, lightning strikes and kills more than 37 people each year.

Since 1959, Florida has had more shark attacks (603) than lightning fatalities (459).

Since 1959, California has had more shark attacks than lightning fatalities (89/30).

Since 1959, Hawaii has had 97 Shark attacks but no lightning fatalities.

Only 5 people die from shark attacks yearly, while millions of people die from starvation.

Since 1905, Natal (where Durban is) has had 89 shark attacks and 27 fatalities.
For every human killed by a shark, humans kill approximately two million sharks.

Originally Posted by jruiz (Post 176769)

I wouldn't base too much on these statistics. They at many times, and I think it applies in this case, apply the analysis as if the audience was part of the general population. For instance they may say that 10 people died this year as a result of a shark attack. With the US being a population of 300M you then had a 1 in 3M chance of dieing as a result of a shark attack. Reality is we expose ourselves to more risk than the general population that's characterized in these statistics. What are the chances of a homeless man that's landlocked in a Midwestern state of being attacked by a shark let alone ever seeing the ocean?

Originally Posted by easyday (Post 176777)

you would have to carry a very large caliber high powered rifle to even puncture the skin, or maybe a shotgun. Bullets dont work well under water at all, which is where you would be, and if your that worried stay off the water......

Originally Posted by easyday (Post 176777)

you would have to carry a very large caliber high powered rifle to even puncture the skin, or maybe a shotgun. Bullets dont work well under water at all, which is where you would be, and if your that worried stay off the water......

Originally Posted by ROOKIE87 (Post 176740)

Hey guys,

My question to you is if we can carry while on a kayak?

Originally Posted by Fishwhisperer619 (Post 176798)

I've only seen an opah once but I don't know how anyone can confuse one for a shark. I think he was just fooling around or pulled a plaxico

Originally Posted by ROOKIE87 (Post 176740)

Hey guys,

Excuse me if i sound like a little B... but this last summer of fishing where whites have been poking up has put me a little on edge. My question to you is if we can carry while on a kayak? If not I was thinking about maybe buying a shark shield. What are your ideas? I thought by buying a hobie proangler I was going to be more safe, but I been hearing the peddles look like flippers in the water.