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carbonbass 05-09-2013 10:29 AM

Running into the taxman, what do you do?
 
Well,
I cant say I have been fortunate enough to come across a large GWS while on the yak yet. But I know like riding a motorcycle, if I keep kayaking, some day I may run into the one. I know we all talk about the fear of the taxman, but does anyone really know what your supposed to do when you do run into one? Are you supposed to speed off as fast as you can or will the shark sense fear and investigate more? Share your knowledge if you have personally run into one on your yak and what you did.

captnblood34 05-09-2013 11:30 AM

[QUOTE=carbonbass;155843]Well,
I cant say I have been fortunate enough to come across a large GWS while on the yak yet.

Lost me at your first sentence..... But when the king of the Sea comes around I believe your preservation of life instincts come out....what those are? You'll find out when it happens. I predict that I would remain stationary and look as un-tasty as possible!:D

dorado50 05-09-2013 11:49 AM

Pay Up...its up to him/her how much to collect:p

Jimmyz123 05-09-2013 12:09 PM

Keep your feet in the boat, stay as calm as you can, and as Dorado50 stated, if the shark is going to attack, there isn't much you can do.

Ggiannig89 05-09-2013 12:27 PM

Don't really know whta I would do. Probably be freaked out and intrigued at the same time. And hopefully I would grab my knife and be prepared if he wanted to scuffle with me.

rossman 05-09-2013 12:34 PM

I take the attitude of a sea lion. It's the ones I see that I feel good about. They tend to attack from the depths. It's like "You never hear the shot that kills you". If you read the first had reports of shark attacks, you never hear that they saw the shark hanging around the area and suddenly they were attacked. It's always a surprise.

Baja_Traveler 05-09-2013 12:35 PM

I'll be scrambling to get my GoPro in action and in the water! As a dive master on multi day trips I've seen my share of sharks, but never had a cool camera like I have now. If you see a shark swimming around take advantage and get a good look - it's just being curious also.

The shark you don't see is the one you have to worry about! Thats how they hunt...

bellcon 05-09-2013 01:02 PM

Don't be so paranoid they're just gentle giants...

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jruiz 05-09-2013 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bellcon (Post 155863)
Don't be so paranoid they're just gentle giants...

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How irresponsible of her, hot chicks are an endangered species

ftufc 05-09-2013 01:12 PM

Being brand new to Kayaking, I have wondered about this a lot; I even purchased a muted color boat instead of yum yum yellow. I also intended to keep a 6' pole spear onboard in hopes of deterring any creature that was too nosey,,, that is, if I saw him first. Does anyone else carry a pole spear or bangstick while kayak fishing?

TJones 05-09-2013 01:13 PM

slow the pulse of your heart beat
 
kinda like a frog when he goes into hibernation . like you said if you panic , the shark can sense that . :paddleersmilie: or you can pull the mirage drive from bay , and crap right then .

Dannowar 05-09-2013 01:45 PM

probably take a picture

HELLSTER INC. 05-09-2013 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bellcon (Post 155863)
Don't be so paranoid they're just gentle giants
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Old Man in the Sea 05-09-2013 02:06 PM

GWS are gentle when they have a full stomach....if hungry they are the opposite...Keep your blood slick to a minimum - I think a 6' bang stick is good insurance - if somebody has found a good one pm me - they use them in florida for gators...otherwise sit still and pray....it worked for Gabe...I do not think you can paddle or peddle fast enough :vroam:

danjor 05-09-2013 02:21 PM

2 summers ago while in Monterey visiting my relatives who also kayak up there during the 3 days I went kayaking we had 5 Tax man sightings. First one was from the freeway looking at the beach you could clearly see a freking huge great white in the waves, second thru forth sighting were while we were kayaking out of moss landing... When you see a great white it is more of a surreal feeling, at first I couldn't believe my eyes and than I just stayed still and just watched it, I know that I could not panic or it could turn bad.
Anyways saw 3 of them that day, first one I thought was a whale jumping to say hi except after 30 minutes or so we realized it never came back up, next one I was hung up on the bottom trying to break free and it swam by.... and last one was eyeballing the seals in the surf while we were he adding in. The next day we went out by cannery row and saw another one. To be honest I was never scared I was more shocked to see a fish that big, doesn't look real...

My take on it is if it wants to eat you there really isn't much you can do so if it is your time its your time, your still more likely to get struck by lightning while kayaking

driftwood 05-09-2013 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Man in the Sea (Post 155871)
GWS are gentle when they have a full stomach....if hungry they are the opposite...Keep your blood slick to a minimum - I think a 6' bang stick is good insurance - if somebody has found a good one pm me - they use them in florida for gators...otherwise sit still and pray....it worked for Gabe...I do not think you can paddle or peddle fast enough :vroam:

I have to admit, that day changed the way I think in terms of kayaking alone late in afternoon with a bloody Yellowtail in the back of my kayak. That shark was almost as big as my kayak. As soon as a saw him I stopped moving and sat nervously still.

The GW circled me a few time and cruised under me and disappeared. May thru July is when see a lot big sharks in La Jolla.

maui jim 05-09-2013 03:10 PM

Your more likely to hit by a bus or lighting:cool:.....It's Jeorge's girl Candy that frightens me the most...:eek:

tacmik 05-09-2013 04:47 PM

I use one of those shark repellents....Glued a picture of my mother-in-law to the bottom of my yak.

TEAMFISH 05-09-2013 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tacmik (Post 155897)
I use one of those shark repellents....Glued a picture of my mother-in-law to the bottom of my yak.

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T Bone 05-09-2013 06:00 PM

sack up and throw out a bait...

StinkyMatt 05-09-2013 06:01 PM

I just installed air bags on the outside of my car.

I added a second set of rain gutters, just in case the first one leaks.

I also have two spare tires, you never know.







You elect to go sit on a plastic stick in the middle of the ocean that is full of sharks. :rolleyes:


Lack of Wsb reports is more scary than the tax man.:D

CKallday71 05-09-2013 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by T Bone (Post 155903)
sack up and throw out a bait...

Yea what he said! Break out the steel leader wire with a HUGE hook on it and half a yellowtail!

Actually, I was on a charter out of San Diego a bunch of years back and we were killing small yellowtail. One of the deck hands spotted a shark fin and hooked the better half of a Bonita on a big honkin hook and chucked it right in front of the sharks path. He didn't hook up but I was rather impressed with the accuracy displayed with the cast. Not sure what kind of shark it was but it was a sizable dorsal fin and the tail fin was certainly not a Thresher.

tacklebox 05-09-2013 07:58 PM

Ive heard if you urinate in the water it can attract sharks. It resembles a fish panicking and or being attacked.
Kinda like bears with menstration but sharks and pee....

lowprofile 05-09-2013 08:15 PM

come across them multiple times. a possible small 4fter in Oceanside harbor, a 7fter out of Newport one in LJ that was just as long as my PA14...

if you can see them, your OK. its the ones you don't see you have to worry about.

I'm kinda a shark magnet if you haven't noticed... thats why i don't fish for other game fish that often.

lowprofile 05-09-2013 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tacmik (Post 155897)
I use one of those shark repellents....Glued a picture of my mother-in-law to the bottom of my yak.


on a serious note, those shark repellents do repel small sharks, like blacktips, but only because they are made from the liver oils and other naturally occurring scents in... yep black tips. what eats black tips? Tigers, Hammers, Bulls and probably great whites... its like chum for larger sharks.

when we use a sharp nose or black tip for bait, the smaller sharks will clear the area immediately and the bite will shut down. only until that big hammer or tiger finds the baited shark.

Dannowar 05-09-2013 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by StinkyMatt (Post 155904)


Lack of Wsb reports is more scary than the tax man.:D

This!!!

maui jim 05-10-2013 06:00 AM

[QUOTE=StinkyMatt;155904]I just installed air bags on the outside of my car.

I added a second set of rain gutters, just in case the first one leaks.


Hey.... I seen your House and you dont have Rain Gutters!! but I know someone who does...;)

carbonbass 05-10-2013 06:23 AM

good info and entertaining posts, thanks guys. I guess if I am ever blessed to see one slowly cruising by I will just sit and enjoy the fact that I get to see such a magnificent creature so close. Like you all have said if its my time its my time, if it isn't, I got to experience something much of the population hasn't.

beef78 07-10-2013 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tacklebox (Post 155923)
Ive heard if you urinate in the water it can attract sharks. It resembles a fish panicking and or being attacked.
Kinda like bears with menstration but sharks and pee....

hahaha, was browsing this thread and thought that it was funny that right before I had a thresher circle my kayak and take my flylined mackerel, I peed off my yak... I have always thought there was something to this theory.

guamboas 07-10-2013 10:52 PM

I bought a bottle of this it seems to be the trick lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJlHjf_E--4

bigbarrels 07-11-2013 01:26 AM

The GW circled me a few time and cruised under me and disappeared. May thru July is when see a lot big sharks in La Jolla.[/QUOTE]


Yep, saw a big one about 5 years ago off La Jolla near squid grounds in the afternoon.....came up and back down about 20 yards off yak.......wasn't into my spanish macks

MITCHELL 07-11-2013 06:49 AM

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FishNinjaY 07-11-2013 09:00 AM

on radio this morning..

apparently 2 "large sharks" seen (by helicopter) within 15-20 feet of surfers, in Manhattan Beach area.

ho hum... as said above, fear not the enemy you see, but fear the enemy you don't see.! :redface:

makobob 07-11-2013 09:05 AM

For me seeing the tax man the 1st time was a religious experience, I knew I was in the presence of greatness. We both knew if he wanted me, I would never see him coming. He was just enriching my life by saying hi!

Hondatom 07-12-2013 07:34 AM

Bat spray, Golf clubs, and pictures of the mother in law?

Now that shit is funny!

My question is how do you get the seat out of your crack after a GWS sighting? I would clamp up so tight you couldn't drag a needle out of my ass with a tractor.

TJones 07-12-2013 07:39 AM

sack up and throw a chum bucket out
 
and then toss a bait . :iagree:

makobob 07-12-2013 07:47 AM

Yea, but what do you do when the kids ask, "can we keep him, and take him home?"

taggermike 07-12-2013 11:33 AM

I dont have to be faster then then the shark, only faster than you. Good reason to take a newbie with you.

Seriously though, if its gonna happen there is not a great deal you can do. Gotta agree that if the shark makes a slow curious approach it wasn't out to eat you. I surfed all over Humboldt county for years and just kinda came to grips with the fact that you give your "top of the food chain" seat while you're in the ocean. I've seen about every other creature that lives in the ocean off Cali. Confident I'll get a drive by from the land lord some day.Mike

Dail14 07-12-2013 12:27 PM

If yo were really worried about it then just go into some thick kelp. It will make it more difficult for it to maneuver into an optimal position for an attack. Personally I wish I could see one everytime I go out. If I can see him than the dogs can see him and he will be less likely to go for stuff on my line. Well that may be wishful thinking:rolleyes: but i would rather lose a fish to the white than to a dog.

TJones 07-12-2013 02:09 PM

strange thing
 
the other day the dogs acted like he was not there . they kept sunbathing , and then all of a sudden one less dog was around . :D . and this shark was no gentle giant . he was hungry and agitated .


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