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lowprofile 11-26-2012 09:24 AM

calling coast guard from a kayak?
 
when calling from a boat usually you identify yourself as your name and your boat name, what do you say when you call from a kayak?

i was wondering this the other day and cant find anything online. lol

MITCHELL 11-26-2012 09:37 AM

What color is your kayak and location

Jimmyz123 11-26-2012 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by lowprofile (Post 139949)
when calling from a boat usually you identify yourself as your name and your boat name, what do you say when you call from a kayak?

i was wondering this the other day and cant find anything online. lol

You give them the best description that you can. I called once on the bay bacsause these boaters were intentionally running their boat close to myself and my buddy. The looked out the window of the Coast Guard office there on Harbor drive and confirmed that he could see me. It was pretty cool actually. They answer really fast and do everything they can to be sure your safe and taken care of.

Now that a lot of us have GPS units you can also give them the mark readings to help them.

RedSledTeam 11-26-2012 10:27 AM

Do you use your VHF or Cell phone? If it's a VHF, in the past you were required to register as a VHF station and received call numbers like "WSP7792". You would use your boat name and this number as your "on-air" identification. Not sure if you have a name for your kayak vessel, but you would at least have a call number... or maybe something like this... "Vessel: Redsledteam WSP7792" ? Did the rules change for VHF radio stations?

lowprofile 11-26-2012 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RedSledTeam (Post 139959)
Do you use your VHF or Cell phone? If it's a VHF, in the past you were required to register as a VHF station and received call numbers like "WSP7792". You would use your boat name and this number as your "on-air" identification. Not sure if you have a name for your kayak vessel, but you would at least have a call number... or maybe something like this... "Vessel: Redsledteam WSP7792" ? Did the rules change for VHF radio stations?


it would be from VHF, didn't know about the registration.

RedSledTeam 11-26-2012 10:31 AM

I'm a little 'old school', so the VHF regulations may have changed.

Jimmyz123 11-26-2012 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by RedSledTeam (Post 139959)
Do you use your VHF or Cell phone? If it's a VHF, in the past you were required to register as a VHF station and received call numbers like "WSP7792". You would use your boat name and this number as your "on-air" identification. Not sure if you have a name for your kayak vessel, but you would at least have a call number... or maybe something like this... "Vessel: Redsledteam WSP7792" ? Did the rules change for VHF radio stations?

I used my cell when I called them from. I have their number saved in the event my radio doesn't work.

bus kid 11-26-2012 11:00 AM

Ask drake.:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Drake (Post 133686)
I go without one. Mainly because I always have Cell phone service, and now a days you can't peddle out and not be within ear shout of someone else. I've been on the water over 100 times this year, and haven't had a situation where I needed a radio over my cell phone. It also might have to do with the fact I'm in the Coast Guard and can make a phone call that will get a faster response that a radio call.


Drake 11-26-2012 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by bus kid (Post 139964)
Ask drake.:rolleyes:

:doh:

lowprofile 11-26-2012 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bus kid (Post 139964)
Ask drake.:rolleyes:

set to speed dial..

i actually meant to ask him on Saturday, since he's a coastie and all. the only thing us jarheads are good at is getting out of speeding tickets.

lterrero 11-26-2012 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RedSledTeam (Post 139961)
I'm a little 'old school', so the VHF regulations may have changed.

Ed, I'll will call as Kayak (1) if I,m the first to call, others can call as kayak 2,3 ,4 etc. all the same vessel on the Same day? :)

RedSledTeam 11-26-2012 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by lterrero (Post 139969)
Ed, I'll will call as Kayak (1) if I,m the first to call, others can call as kayak 2,3 ,4 etc. all the same vessel on the Same day? :)

Ok Leo, what happens if on the same day, in the same area kayak 2, 7 and 21 all have the same make, model and color kayak and kayak 13 has the same color too but has a different model and puts out the call for help? :eek: :biggrinjester: Which one do you go to if you are providing assistance?

lowprofile 11-26-2012 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by RedSledTeam (Post 139971)
Ok Leo, what happens if on the same day, in the same area kayak 2, 7 and 21 all have the same make, model and color kayak and kayak 13 has the same color too but has a different model and puts out the call for help? :eek: :biggrinjester: Which one do you go to if you are providing assistance?

you look for the one without a rod in his/her hand... :D

RedSledTeam 11-26-2012 11:59 AM

Or the one that's upside-down!

Nismo228 11-26-2012 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by lowprofile (Post 139968)
set to speed dial..

i actually meant to ask him on Saturday, since he's a coastie and all. the only thing us jarheads are good at is getting out of speeding tickets.

I'm not even good at that. Got pulled over by a prior marine(same as myself) and couldn't even get the speed reduced and I was getting ready to go to Afghaniland.

lterrero 11-26-2012 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by lowprofile (Post 139974)
you look for the one without a rod in his/her hand... :D

My friend, with 21 yak out there, your buddys will give the better help that you can need. Cheers:cheers1:

bus kid 11-26-2012 12:13 PM

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Would have mattered much this weekend as visibility was about 30 feet! :D
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Cbad Mike 11-26-2012 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by lowprofile (Post 139949)
when calling from a boat usually you identify yourself as your name and your boat name, what do you say when you call from a kayak?

i was wondering this the other day and cant find anything online. lol

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Originally Posted by RedSledTeam (Post 139959)
Do you use your VHF or Cell phone? If it's a VHF, in the past you were required to register as a VHF station and received call numbers like "WSP7792". You would use your boat name and this number as your "on-air" identification. Not sure if you have a name for your kayak vessel, but you would at least have a call number... or maybe something like this... "Vessel: Redsledteam WSP7792" ? Did the rules change for VHF radio stations?


Great and important question that I hope we can get a definate answer for.

I like to believe that in the case of an emergency where no one was around to help and I had to call the CG I would be able to give an approximate location based on landmarks in the event my GPS is down.

lowprofile 11-26-2012 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bus kid (Post 139979)
Would have mattered much this weekend as visibility was about 30 feet! :D
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must be why i didn't see you out there. :D

bus kid 11-26-2012 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by lowprofile (Post 139982)
must be why i didn't see you out there. :D

Fri. at LJ, or sat NPH?

lowprofile 11-26-2012 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bus kid (Post 139983)
Fri. at LJ, or sat NPH?

sat. LJ. i coulda sworn you posted you were going there on sat... oh well.

lterrero 11-26-2012 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lowprofile (Post 139974)
you look for the one without a rod in his/her hand... :D

(After initials call), you give details:)

bus kid 11-26-2012 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by lowprofile (Post 139985)
sat. LJ. i coulda sworn you posted you were going there on sat... oh well.

nah too many people, beside the Lizzards were WFO sat up here. :eek:

so Drake what's the correct way to radio in and what format is easiest for you guys as far as gps goes?
degrees minutes seconds or degrees minuets fractions or decimal?

Drake 11-26-2012 12:52 PM

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so Drake what's the correct way to radio in and what format is easiest for you guys as far as gps goes?
degrees minutes seconds or degrees minuets fractions or decimal?

Me at work

bus kid 11-26-2012 12:58 PM

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Doesn't matter to me I got your # from Candy

Drake 11-26-2012 01:00 PM

But seriously, people over think it too much. It really depends on what the problem is. Are you in trouble? Or are you calling on behalf of someone else?

If you or someone in trouble, first thing you do is call the emergency number
Emergency Phone: ( 619) 295-3121 ( San Diego)

If you were smart, you left a float plan behind. You give them the contact number of the person with your float plan first, that way if you lose reception, phone gets wet or battery dies, they can find out most of what they need to know.

Second off, if theres 20 kayaks out there, and 15 of them are the exact same make model and color, chances are in the event of an emergency there will be a ton of other kayaks huddled around. We're no stupid. When we see clusters like that it's an obvious sign something is wrong. If you're by yourself an no one is around, thats self explanatory. Also, it's not hard to identify your kayak even with the same ones out there. Hopefully most of us carry these long poles with big flat panels on the ends, otherwise known as "great signaling devises"

Also, GPS coords are great and all, but not really crucial. If you call and say "I'm on my kayak, I launched from LJ shores and I'm in front of the condo" we'll get there. As long as you're not hiding in the cave, we'll get to you pretty quick. We have both water and air support. In heavy fog, finding you will be really tricky and that when GPS will come in handy, but we have special equipment to help us. Also, carry a firefly. Even in daylight, the flash from a firefly can bounce around in fog making it much easier to locate someone. A noise device whether is be a whistle or a horn is also a must have.

If you use a radio, put out your mayday, Mariners law should hopefully make sure any boat in the area will come to your rescue.

Hope this helps.

bus kid 11-26-2012 01:11 PM

Thank you, sweetie, now we can all fish in peace knowing we will be ok. I vote sticky for just Drakes post ;)

lowprofile 11-26-2012 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bus kid (Post 139993)
Thank you, sweetie, now we can all fish in peace knowing we will be ok. I vote sticky for just Drakes post ;)

yep.

RedSledTeam 11-26-2012 01:46 PM

:reel:Thanks for "reeling us in" Drake. Sometimes when I'm not fishing, it's easy for me to go off tangents ... in all directions. :party:

JarrodMc 11-26-2012 08:42 PM

Thanks Drake!

Cbad Mike 11-26-2012 08:58 PM

Thanks Drake. I appreciate the information.
:cheers1:

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