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Iebadboy 01-31-2012 09:05 PM

Hobie or keep my Malibu stealth 14
 
I'm debating on weather to buy a hobie outback or just keep my Malibu stealth 14 I've had for one season? Any suggestions???

bryguth 01-31-2012 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Iebadboy (Post 106136)
I'm debating on weather to buy a hobie outback or just keep my Malibu stealth 14 I've had for one season? Any suggestions???

Hobie is the way to go if you can afford it... I have had mine for 2 weeks and it is a night and day difference...go see Andy at OEX and go for a test drive.. You will not be disappointed

Bennyblanco 01-31-2012 09:27 PM

Hobie
 
Yea what he said.

Iebadboy 01-31-2012 09:38 PM

That's what my boy is telling me that once I get the hobie I will be hooked and my wife tells me I have to many yaks I need to consaledate first. Now it's wether I go new or get a demo to save a couple hundred I can do both. What do u guys think?

mazilla 02-01-2012 06:38 AM

Motorize your stealth, there's nothing better IMO...ask my Hobie friends who I'm always having to wait around for. ;) :D

sdfishman 02-01-2012 06:53 AM

Wait up for me haha.. Your trolling motor will die one day and I will pedal right past you..

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Originally Posted by mazilla (Post 106152)
Motorize your stealth, there's nothing better IMO...ask my Hobie friends who I'm always having to wait around for. ;) :D


mazilla 02-01-2012 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by sdfishman (Post 106156)
Wait up for me haha.. Your trolling motor will die one day and I will pedal right past you..

Yeah, it'll be from towing your Hobie around some more! Hahaha

mrJB 02-01-2012 07:14 AM

paddle or pedal?
 
Which to buy - paddle or pedal?

It's a good question, but seldom answered by those who aren’t sponsored, professional, or a “New-B” buying into the hype.

A mechanical advantage, such as a drive, will be just that, an advantage (in certain areas). In a fishing kayak, this will equate into greater range and greater maintainable speed in getting there. However, there are “no free lunches” in life and there are tradeoffs. Mechanical systems require maintenance and adjustment, and sometimes break at inopportune times.

Dealer/manufacturer support? Not just issues that would be a liability problem for them, but real support, including problems above (and beyond) the waterline. Have a high percentage of brand owners had problems? If you are truly asking for advice rather than re-affirmation of what you may have already decided, ask around, especially those who don’t stand to gain from their opinions, and those who have owned many brands.

Different hull shapes perform differently, especially in less than perfect conditions. Where will the kayak be primarily used – lakes, bays, through the surf, distant fishing grounds? Is storage or transportation a problem? Is deck space an issue? Will this kayak be used for fishing, hooping, other activities?

I guess the bottom line is don’t be fooled by hype, or those who would eventually stand to gain from your decision. Ask around, do your research, demo LOTS of different types, and make your decision based on your needs, not slick marketing.

JOSER85 02-01-2012 07:21 AM

@the above comment

Very well said :luxhello::luxhello::luxhello::luxhello::luxhello: :luxhello::luxhello::luxhello::luxhello::luxhello: :luxhello:

Siebler 02-01-2012 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by sdfishman (Post 106156)
Wait up for me haha.. Your trolling motor will die one day and I will pedal right past you..

Until you break a drive cable :eek:

Ill stick to paddling thank you :D

If you think paddling is too hard its probably because your paddling a slow boat. If you notice, most of those who say they would rather paddle are on efficient boats like Tarpons, Prowlers, Etc.

sdfishman 02-01-2012 07:33 AM

I'm too big for those tarpons/prowlers :). I have a XFactor when I decided to paddle.


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Originally Posted by Siebler (Post 106163)
Until you break a drive cable :eek:

Ill stick to paddling thank you :D

If you think paddling is too hard its probably because your paddling a slow boat. If you notice, most of those who say they would rather paddle are on efficient boats like Tarpons, Prowlers, Etc.


mtnbykr2 02-01-2012 07:34 AM

I love a good debate...
consolodate and keep em both if it has been an option.....:reeling:

Siebler 02-01-2012 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by sdfishman (Post 106164)
I'm too big for those tarpons/prowlers :). I have a XFactor when I decided to paddle.

Bet your not too big for a Prowler Trident 15. Theres a few larger guys paddling this boat and they LOVE it.

If theres a will theres a way :cheers1:

oneyedeer 02-01-2012 07:47 AM

go down to OEX and take couple of the hobie out for a test drive....try the outback and revolution. Paddle and peddle them

you test drive cars test drive your women why not a kayak :)

ful-rac 02-01-2012 08:01 AM

id keep the stealth!!!!!....because I have one too:luxhello:!!! I personally love my stealth 14, it has served me well, and hopefully for many more years to come.

Tony.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...g/de0443f2.jpg

da22y 02-01-2012 09:03 AM

I have a Hobie Adventure.
I also purchased Tarpon 160, Malibu stealth14, Trident 13 "AFTER" my Hobie.

All is sold but my Hobie stay.
Just can't break my Hobie addiction.
Hobie is not perfect , but I still think it is the best for me.

Podaker 02-01-2012 09:43 AM

I went from a tarpon to a hobie and there will be no going back. It's hands free, less effort, faster, and you can turn on a dime. not as good in the surf and you can't go backwards until you grab your paddle. for me the pros far outwiegh the minor cons. go try one out, if you are in san diego you can test one out at fastlane on mission bay.

Siebler 02-01-2012 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed (Post 106171)
I am not sponsored and have nothing to gain. I have owned 2 Prowlers, 2 Malibus and 1 Hobie. I love my Hobie and it hasn't failed in 7 years. If I were sight seeing, looking at whales or other such recreation, a paddle is great. I love to paddle. When fishing a Hobie rules. I love to have my hands free to set lines or cast or have a sandwich, whatever. When it gets really windy and choppy the Adventure lets me hold position and vertically jig. As for a mechanical failure, if my Adventure drive ever fails my yak magically tranforms into a regular kayak and I just paddle in. Oooooo, dangerous. :D


Opinions from Utah dont count Ed :p

Cant wait to see you and Alan in May, gonna be a blast again!

bellcon 02-01-2012 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Siebler (Post 106166)
Bet your not too big for a Prowler Trident 15. Theres a few larger guys paddling this boat and they LOVE it.

If theres a will theres a way :cheers1:

Yep CJ is right on
6'-4", 250lbs here and been on a Trident 15 for about 5 years
I can keep up with the Hobie guys no problem...

But in the wind? a strong current?, while trying to hold a spot? or when the fish blow up WAY over there?
that's when I hate them same Hobie guys
even more when they peddle past me waving with a beer in one hand and a rod in the other
:the_finger:

Look at the WCW leader board I think everyone with a submission is on a Hobie
well almost everyone :ciao::D


having said that
Looks like the PA is my next ride

dorado50 02-01-2012 01:20 PM

I really don't know why anyone states the real benefits of a hobie:confused:. Yes they are all of the above but when it comes to fishing they have a reel advantage. Instead of the fish taking you into the kelp or into a lobster line you can lead that fish away from said objects,thus increaseing your chances of landing fish. Also a Hobie allows you to have better control of fish by keeping rod to one side of kayak at all times thus eliminating those over the bow swings during different stages of fight,which obviously keeps your rod and spool /line tension consistent throughout the battle. Just two prime examples of why hobies work!

Salty Dog 02-02-2012 09:22 AM

I have a Wilderness Systems Tarpon 160 and a Hobie Revolution 13.

I got the Tarpon first. I wanted a kayak that was seaworthy and could cover long distances. The first thing I bought after was a carbon fiber paddle. A good paddle can turn any kayak into a better kayak. I have paddled and fished with it from Newport Beach to Laguna Beach and back without too much trouble. I think someone made the crossing to Catalina on one.
Paddling for fish is an art. More skills are required to handle the kayak. I welcome the challenge.

I got the Hobie when I noticed that my my legs were beginning to look like chicken legs while my shoulders were all buffed out. Balance is the key. Great training for hiking or backpacking!!!
Pedaling for fish is fun! No skills required! With paddling I had to stop to have a drink. Now I just keep going and not waste any precious beer drinking time:cheers1:

I better get back on the Tarpon soon. My arms are starting to look like chicken wings.:paddleersmilie:

Iebadboy 02-02-2012 10:26 AM

Rigged kayaks
 
I want to thank all of you and your recommendations was wanting to know if any one was willing to share photos of your riged hobie's
Thanks

PapaDave 02-02-2012 10:56 AM

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Here is a recent pic of my Pro Angler...

f'nsabiki 02-02-2012 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by PapaDCh (Post 106242)
Here is a recent pic of my Pro Angler...

how much are your slip fees???:biggrinjester:

mtnbykr2 02-02-2012 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by PapaDCh (Post 106242)
Here is a recent pic of my Pro Angler...

Show off...:D...:biggrinjester: Hey, where and what is that cool Go Pro mount?

thefisher 02-02-2012 06:00 PM

Hey PapaDCh what sounder is that im in the market and weren't clear on which model to get.

jorluivil 02-02-2012 09:33 PM

Get a Hobie

When your battery dies I'll peddle past you
When you paddle breaks I'll peddle past you
When my peddles break, your battery dies and your paddle breaks I'll paddle past you
When my paddle breaks......I'll call you and ask you how you got in when your motor and your paddle broke.

I've owned both types of kayaks but nothing beats a Hobie.

mazilla 02-03-2012 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jorluivil (Post 106277)
Get a Hobie

When your battery dies I'll peddle past you
When you paddle breaks I'll peddle past you
When my peddles break, your battery dies and your paddle breaks I'll paddle past you
When my paddle breaks......I'll call you and ask you how you got in when your motor and your paddle broke.

I've owned both types of kayaks but nothing beats a Hobie.


Ha! You've never owned a luxury liner with a motor...you'd change your tune.

Then again, not too many people have the mechanical ability to design a motor system...so they don't have much of a choice.


When your struggling to get back, I'll motor past you in reverse and ask you what the big deal is...as I clip my toe nails. I can cruise my motorized yak for 7+ hours(haven't run out of battery yet)...how many hours can you peddle before you pass out? HAHAHAHA



;):D

PapaDave 02-03-2012 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by f'nsabiki (Post 106261)
how much are your slip fees???:biggrinjester:

Slip fees aren't too bad, it's the ammo that hits the wallet...

PapaDave 02-03-2012 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mtnbykr2 (Post 106264)
Show off...:D...:biggrinjester: Hey, where and what is that cool Go Pro mount?

It's a combo of a flexible arm and a motorcycle handle bar mount. Both from the Ram web site. The arm is made of a solid aluminum rod that can bend, but not easliy, so it stays where you put it.

PapaDave 02-03-2012 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by thefisher (Post 106268)
Hey PapaDCh what sounder is that im in the market and weren't clear on which model to get.

It's a Lowrance Elite 5, GPS and FF. Works very well. Been thinking of getting a side scanning one though. Not sure if those work on a kayak, but it would be cool.

PapaDave 02-03-2012 01:53 PM

All in all, while it weighs more then other kayaks, the PA is a mighty fine ride. The chair is wonderfully comfortable, lots of storage, lots of room, six internal rod holders and very very stable.

PapaDave 02-03-2012 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mazilla (Post 106285)
Ha! You've never owned a luxury liner with a motor...you'd change your tune.

Then again, not too many people have the mechanical ability to design a motor system...so they don't have much of a choice.


When your struggling to get back, I'll motor past you in reverse and ask you what the big deal is...as I clip my toe nails. I can cruise my motorized yak for 7+ hours(haven't run out of battery yet)...how many hours can you peddle before you pass out? HAHAHAHA



;):D

I'd say about 14 hours... :D isn't that about right Jorluivil?

Drake 02-03-2012 02:27 PM

I recently went from a Stealth 12 to a Hobie Pro Angler. I've found a lot of benifits, mostly listed above. But to be honest, I find myself Kayaking 300% more than I did with the stealth. Just the little things you can do on a hobie make it so much more enjoyable on the water. I hated having to secure my poles, grab the paddle, and move back on top of a good spot.

Maintaining position on the Hobie is so much easier. Point your bow toward where the wind/current is coming from, set the rudder and just slowly peddle, all the while you still have your rod in your hand.

Trolling is another good example. I like trolling with my rod in my hand. I can control the baits better by controlling the rod tip, jerking plastics, feeling hits ect.

Also, when you got caught on the bottom or in some kelp, you know right away. As opposed to when you're paddling and you're already to far to really do your self any favors. In a hobie, you can peddle around whatever you're caught on and are much more likely to free your rig.

I will say this though. I miss the side compartments on my Stealth more than anything, those were the best things to have.

jorluivil 02-03-2012 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by PapaDCh (Post 106323)
I'd say about 14 hours... :D isn't that about right Jorluivil?

Longest I've gone is from about 6am until about 4pm.

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Originally Posted by Drake (Post 106325)
I recently went from a Stealth 12 to a Hobie Pro Angler. I've found a lot of benifits, mostly listed above. But to be honest, I find myself Kayaking 300% more than I did with the stealth. Just the little things you can do on a hobie make it so much more enjoyable on the water. I hated having to secure my poles, grab the paddle, and move back on top of a good spot.

Maintaining position on the Hobie is so much easier. Point your bow toward where the wind/current is coming from, set the rudder and just slowly peddle, all the while you still have your rod in your hand.

Trolling is another good example. I like trolling with my rod in my hand. I can control the baits better by controlling the rod tip, jerking plastics, feeling hits ect.

Also, when you got caught on the bottom or in some kelp, you know right away. As opposed to when you're paddling and you're already to far to really do your self any favors. In a hobie, you can peddle around whatever you're caught on and are much more likely to free your rig.

I will say this though. I miss the side compartments on my Stealth more than anything, those were the best things to have.

What ^^^he^^^ said. Especially, the stuff in bold print regarding storage


There's a reason why Hobie is taking over the market. Many of us have been on both types of yaks and so far I haven't met one person that has said, "I'm going back to paddling".

Iebadboy 02-03-2012 04:00 PM

look!!!!!
 
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:drool5::drool5: well im apart of a new family now!! :reel:!!:reel:

dsafety 02-03-2012 07:20 PM

Most of the comments posted above are valid and reasonable. IMO, the most valuable feature of the Hobie system is the "hands free" factor. You can go where you want to go while still keeping your hand on your rod making it possible to instantly respond to whatever is on the other end of the line.

If this is important to you, then Hobie is the way to go.

That said, many of us are regularly out-fished by folks with better skills on other platforms.

Bob

jorluivil 02-03-2012 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Iebadboy (Post 106333)
:drool5::drool5: well im apart of a new family now!! :reel:!!:reel:

Don't forget to remove the wrapping before you launch


http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/a...1&d=1328317207

Iebadboy 02-03-2012 07:53 PM

So that's why it was hard to sit on......

Drake 02-04-2012 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Iebadboy (Post 106333)
:drool5::drool5: well im apart of a new family now!! :reel:!!:reel:

I carry my PA on my toaster too, its so easy to get it on and off :luxhello:


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