Rotator Cuff Tear...
 

After countless hours paddling, I think I may have done it..:doh:
I haven't gotten the official MRI yet, but the searing pain emanating from within my right arm socket is a direct indicator im afraid could lead to the sale of my beloved Prowler...Can anyone describe their symptoms if you have encountered the same tear?..

OUCH!!!

Time for a Hobie:)

Exactly...:(

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EXACTLY!...:cool:

Tore my left rotator cuff. It stings really bad in one particular direction of movement. Weakness in that direction, loss in strength in the direction the tear occurs either pushing or pulling. Doesn't sound good Wade.:(

I've had my left shoulder surgically repaired twice. The symptoms common with both tears were.

-Pain with range of motion
-Pain with bearing of weight
-Popping sensation with movement of arm forward and back (I had to keep my hand in my pocket while walking to avoid this)
-Pain while sleeping due to shoulder realignment while lying for prolonged time

My first surgery was in 2000, and the MD recommended paddling excercises for therapy. I added the fishing pole myself:D. Im a paddler, and I plan to stay that way as long as possible.

Good luck on your results

I had three repairs. Two on my right and one on my left. I'll fill you in on what I went thru when we hookup for the wraps.
-Tim-

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Lingering pain

I've got a tear in my shoulder right now. Depending on the degree of the tear, meds and rest could get you over the hump, but if I know you... that won't work. Only your Doctor can tell you what to do based on exam. If you go in for an exam, they will probably start you off with Xrays (usually doesn't show anything). Try to request an "MRI with Contrast (Dye)". This is the best method to show tears.

Your young enough, the Dr may recommend surgery. When your around your 50's, it's a different story and the side effects of the surgery are not so nice - that is why I have gone the Hobie route. I have also had to limit some activities. Example - Racquetball with my 25 yr old son I place my shots instead of slamming it, hoopin - not so sure how I'll do this year - one night of hoopin turns into 2 days of ice on the shoulder. Even a 12 hour day of fishing on the Hobie brings pain just due to the fishing portion :reeling:

Good luck to ya!

I did not know there were so many old guys......:cool:

You can't be sure it's a tear until the doctor checks it out. For years I have had a lot of extreme shoulder pain (yeah, I'm working on my seventh decade of life) due to overuse which causes swelling in the shoulder joint. A shot of steroids fixes this up within hours. If this is the case, learning a new paddling technique may surprise you as to how well you feel at the end of the day.

When I started kayaking I thought this wasn't going to work until I learned how to paddle like they do in ocean kayaks. It took awhile to for it to feel natural, but now I no longer have shoulder problems even after padding all day. It takes some practice for it to feel natural, but before you know it you'll never go back to using your arms only.

Check it out, it may help you out. The tutorial is a animated video step by step. Paddling Basics.

http://kayakpaddling.net/

hopefully it is just some rotator cuff tendonitis......MRI is the key to ruling out a tear......rotator cuff tendonitis is treated with rest, anti-inflammatories, and sometimes steroid injections into the joint......some people have arthritic changes to the underside of the acromion process that makes them more suseptible to rotator cuff tendonitis and or rotator cuff tears due to the arthritic changes impinging on the rotator cuff that slides under the acromion process......have it shaved down arthroscopically and the problem improves and/or goes away......if torn rotator cuff have it repaired........and buy a Hobie when you can.....just .02 from an ER guy

hope it feels better soon:)

man that sucks if it is a torn. paddling technique definitely can help, use your core/legs, your arms are there just to guide the paddle. Maybe a different type paddle could help resolve the pain. Look at greenland paddle. looks really weird but my dad had shoulder problems, he is a avid kayak surfer and he uses one for surfing and ocean kayaking and he doesn't have issues.

I have had suspected tears in both my right and left. Last one was left arm and took a year of self therapy to heal. Alternating hot and cold on it. Ibuprofin for the swelling and pain. Searing pain with the wrong angle of movement as well as fast movements. Loss of sleep! Could not raise my hand much above my head and could not use that arm to wipe my .........nose. Paddling felt like I had hit the wall, very weak muscle. I am 99% as I feel what I would guess is scar tissue.

:canabis: will solve your problems

hahahaha :luxhello: x2

:iagree:

Deep Breaths.....:sifone::sifone::sifone::sifone::sifon e:

and lots of :lobster::lobster:tacos....

6 pac reps of 12oz curls

Smoke On The Water
 

Smoke on the water..:sifone::sifone:

Bummer. It comes with the territory. The amount of well-informed advice here is impressive - and sobering.

I am currently undergoing therapy for Rotator cuff syndrome and pass this advice: Don't ignore it or it will get worse. I'm sure the suggestion for pain relief works temperately but if treated in time with therapy, surgery can be avoided. Being a Hobie owner myself, I can only imagine what paddling can do to aggravate the situation. My problem stems from an old injury battling big surf that yanked my shoulder out of place, followed by subsequent long hours at the computer with bad posture. %$#$%^@ me up for a very long time!

Fake injury
 

Some people will do anything to buy themselves a new toy.:D

Wade, which Hobie are you eyeballing?

I like the "I hurt my shoulder" twist....;)


Seriously, hope this is not a major injury, we need a bug removal specialist on the water.

Regor nailed it... a contrast MRI is called an MR arthrogram. It shows much more than a MRI however it is usually the 3rd test ordered by a Doc. Xray-MRI-MR arthrogram

Come to The Darkside, Wade...
 

Can you hear the evil call? The temptation is just too great. You can fight it all you want, but I know where you'll end up.
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The doctors note is just another fine excuse if you asked me.
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Now, the real dilemma: Revo, Outback, or Pro Angler! :D

If the pain was coming from my left side, i would be @ the Hospital right now getting checked for a possible heart attack?!..

The fight is only over the funds..If I had some of those red cents to drop, I'd probably get the P.A. right now..Looks like I'll be living through you guys for some time..Step it up with some new videos por favor BWE!!...:reel::jig::wsb:

Junior...Im feeling sorry for ya. I'll ask Joy if she will lend you hers, hell she never uses it...

Wade,

Buy the hobie!!

I have the same predicament, that is why I now pedal.

bummer Wade,
I've been plauged with shoulder probs since highschool and had full shoulder reconstuction after a compound fractured collar bone/scapula? followed by arto surgey a couple years after....I obvoiusly had no choise but IMO if its not dislocating, there a good chance it will heal on its own....after a few weeks of immobilization. Just do what you can to stay off the operating table!! If you do go under the knife your looking at a solid 2months recovery anyway, and then your shoulder will still hurt randomly anyway (arthridus?).

Immobilize for a few weeks
Hot/cold therapy really helps
Alcohol Dehydrates and inflames tissues...no good...
Also, I think sleeping habits can play a big role in shoulder issues...learn to sleep on your back with your arms at your side, if you go under the knife your gonna be sleeping like that anyway so just get used to it.

OHHH yeah, sell the Flinstone modile!!! welcome to the 21st century!!!

Throw some dirt on it, you'll be fine...

Laughing my ass off

when i saw TMAN posted on this thread
I almost guessed exactly what the response would be
Old School:cheers1:

It could be tendonosis - a very painful debilitating condition that come from repetitive use. Micro tears form along the tendon's length. They repeatedly tear and scar over when you re-injure it.
If you did not have any direct trauma to the affected area that would be my guess. (I got mine from Rowing) It got so bad I couldn't carry my groceries to my house.

- I went for the MRI and Ultrasound Scan to verify the condition. I had Four Radiologist Dr's read the scans. The only thing you can do it rest it - that means No use at all - and it sucks big time.
The Orthopedic Dr. told me if I rested it for 6 continuous months it would scar over and heal itself - and it did.
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You need to figure out a way to fish without aggravating the area. Use the Rail, Use your legs to peddle.

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I also has a rotator cuff tear from a different incident. Although it was painful, it was a different kind of pain only localized to a specific movement. It was easier to deal with as compared to the tendonosis and tear.

The Number 1 advice the doc will give you is to stop what you are doing and rest the area. I know you don't want to hear that (neither did I) but its a way to heal without surgery.

tore mine pitching, besides you'll have more to do with your hands now:reel:

Wow new selling point for Hobie

I've only dreamt about turning a mossbacks head.......:yt:

for ten years I have been at the whim of the fish for my sleigh rides...
The tides have now turned, as have my tendons..and so will your damn rolly-polley fish heads now!!!
Sorry Ocean Kayak Prowler aka my 'Ol Soldier'...RIP
I loved you long time didn't I? I took you all over the US & Canada..
You've been in almost every Fresh & Salt body of water accessible and unaccessible known to man..
:wsb::yt::wsb::yt::wsb::yt::wsb::yt:





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Next the Knees
 

Bummer.

It might heal over time?

Any ways--the peddle yaks may come with their own problems.
For me: Knee pain was number 1. Oh yes.
Number 2: back pain, if you cannot swap in a better seat.

It sucks getting old.

So, long story short. Which Hobie are you getting?

I don't have to worry about my knees anymore...
I destroyed them back in 2000 Skateboarding.
I did em so bad, I went to the Miami Dolphins Specialist John Uribe, and he wanted to do a full replacement with Bovine Grafts...So, i took up the sport known as Kayak Fishing...

http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/1057/knees.jpg

I was all set to go up against that Reese Forbes Ollie challenge...
Miami's Lincoln Road Alley Ollie...
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/4...3354432207.jpg
(Photographer: Carlos Reyes/ CEO & Shaper of C Shapes)


PRO ANGLER......:reel::jig::wsb:

Something must be wrong with the medical report. It says you attempted to skateboard off of a 2-story building......:eek::e:stickyman:ek::eek::stickyman :

"Anything worth doing, is worth doing right..."
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

Sorry to hear that your hurting. Hang in there Wade. I have a bottle of Yellow Tail Rum for your medicinal needs. Flavored with lemongrass, lime, ginger, and peppers.

Steve

well in that case you need my double dark side ferrari.:D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMksDcd6Qsg

What a bummer Wade! Hope it's not as serious as it seems and you heal up soon.