black t-shirt
 

just a suggestion may be we can all wear a tourny t-shirt if you have one old or new it will be easy to fine like minded folks and does not cost anything if you have it alot of folks went to the steve moyer tourny and looks like its the same people going to the meeting. just my .02 $

Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Yes, I agree these meetings are often mass confusion. I'll get with our friends at the Waterman's Alliance to see what we can do to smooth things out.

from my understanding Waterman will be giving out tee's but i still plan on wearing my tourny tee to be easy to spot

Great idea...at one of the meetings, we chose black only to be accused of threatening tactics.

Won't be hard to miss the fishermen and women, pretty sure the other side will be handing out t-shirts...usually in blue, look for the phrase claiming how MLPA's work, even though they've not been set in place...

Tman

so.. your saying to pick up your blue tee first so you can burn them in the parking lot ;) :D

I think enviros mounted an attack to BWE with this gallery hack :D

Put me down Chris.

Wouldn't want to miss out, great numbers so far, thanks all!!!

C'MON ALL, LETS FIND THE TIME AND SHOW UP.

Definitely need a dress code to stick out.

Just an update.

Thanks all for the inputs. We all read them and discuss them and try to find solutions all the time from your feedback so it's mucho appreciated.

The Watermen's Alliance will have a table, and that's where you can find me (joe--zenspearo). Everyone will have name tags but the key organizers for ceding time and speaker coordination will be easy to recognize, due to what they will wear (trust me on this point--we took your feedback that it was hard to find the key people at past meetings).

Funny story: At one of our meetings last year, some guy came up and asked for six speaker cards to have more time to speak. Tried to sound convincing too. I didn't buy it and somebody eventually "outed" that person as some nut case from the close-it-all side.

This is an open forum and we can't openly discuss in advance speaking points, what we wear (because you bet some joker is going to wear the same and try to collect speaker cards from some first-timer fisherman attendee), etc.. But on the day at the venue, the information will be clearly posted, speaking points will be printed, copied, and made available, and the organizers will be distinctive in what they wear so if you have time card to give, need speaking point, or need time, you can easily find someone who can help.

Thanks so much for participating in this critical push. Happy paddling and tight lines.

MLPA Take III
 

Great comments by Fishinado. I agree with all but is it still suggested that focus our comments on Map 2 ? I still have "Support Map 2" name badge hanging on my rear view mirror. Lucas and I will be there on the 20th but I have Lakers tickets for 7pm on Oct. 21st so I hope with public commentary will not pushed back to the end of the program. I will work with Lucas to get a focused speach for him to presetn once again. I believe we will need to pool our time once again as we may be allowed only 15 seconds per person.

Hope to lots of fisherman will be in attendance.

Kurtfish

Everyone:

Are both the 20th and 21st still the day's to attend? Is the 21st still a good day to show-up?

I was planning on going on the 20th, but I now have to go to Minneapolis for business on Monday the 18th, returning on the 20th, so the 21st looks like the only day I can make the meeting.

Thanks,

Kevin

^Unfortunately, the MLPA probably won't overlap onto the 21st. Please wish us the best and if you are so inclined, consider a donation to the Ocean Access Protection Fund to support the legal challenge.

http://oceanaccessprotectionfund.org/

Thanks for answering my question. Sorry to hear that the 21st is not good, but if this changes and the MLPA does go into the 21st, other then this forum, is there a way to check?

I will go to the website you listed.

Kevin

Sorry, I have a 3 week old, so my time is limited to update this list...! Btw, my last day of vacation is going to be the 20th, and I will be at this meeting, instead of, spending it with my newborn, so NO Excuses! Please attend! :)


BREAKING NEWS!!! The MLPA is agenda item #3 for Weds Oct 20. The meeting starts at 10 am. Get there before 10AM, so we can coordinate and cede time... etc..


Four Points by Sheraton
8110 Aero Drive
San Diego, CA

ROLL CALL!!!!

1. Chris
2. dmrides
3. deepdvr
4. dsafety
5. AQUATICHUNTER
6. SteveOOO
7. Dgax65
8. cowboybill
9. Fishionado
10. Old Rookie
11. PAL
12. Joe Beck
13. Kurt
14.Cabojohn
15. The Kid
16. CurtyL
17. Bluesquids
18. jbm
19. Matt
20. Tman
21. Clay
22. newguy01
23. WahooUSMA
24. Corey
25. Ohana
26. zinkysd
27. roadx
28. Tyler
29. Dan
30. C. Cary
31. dfroggy54
32. bubblehide
33. BillyV
34. Mikecollins86
35. fryguy
36. Tattuna
37. Paintnfish
38. kelpangler
39. Aquatic Hunter
40. TheLuckyPig
41. Grego
42. MVC
43. GregAndrew
44. Hatchetman
45. Hobie Shaq1
46. erinoo
47. driftwood
48. cjthomas
49. Adi
50. Zenspearo
51. kurtfish
52. ???????

Im in. girls gotta show up too...

BREAKING NEWS!!! The MLPA is agenda item #3 for Weds Oct 20. The meeting starts at 10 am. Get there before 10AM, so we can coordinate and cede time... etc..


Four Points by Sheraton
8110 Aero Drive
San Diego, CA

ROLL CALL!!!!

1. Chris
2. dmrides
3. deepdvr
4. dsafety
5. AQUATICHUNTER
6. SteveOOO
7. Dgax65
8. cowboybill
9. Fishionado
10. Old Rookie
11. PAL
12. Joe Beck
13. Kurt
14.Cabojohn
15. The Kid
16. CurtyL
17. Bluesquids
18. jbm
19. Matt
20. Tman
21. Clay
22. newguy01
23. WahooUSMA
24. Corey
25. Ohana
26. zinkysd
27. roadx
28. Tyler
29. Dan
30. C. Cary
31. dfroggy54
32. bubblehide
33. BillyV
34. Mikecollins86
35. fryguy
36. Tattuna
37. Paintnfish
38. kelpangler
39. Aquatic Hunter
40. TheLuckyPig
41. Grego
42. MVC
43. GregAndrew
44. Hatchetman
45. Hobie Shaq1
46. erinoo
47. driftwood
48. cjthomas
49. Adi
50. Zenspearo
51. kurtfish
52. sharonkayak
53. ???????

Congrats Chris! 2 kids and 2 labs now? or do you count Trevor as one of your red headed step childs! :the_finger:

Add another possible to the list, I might be bringing a guest from work...never fished the ocean, just a good ol' Montana boy who can't stand all the "eco-chip hippies" I think he gets that from cow-chips? I dunno, never asked....

*sniff* *sniff* did someone fart recently....bhahahahhaha...or was it eric :biggrinjester:

I'll be there Chris

Thanks Grego, but I have dis-owned Trevor! :p


BREAKING NEWS!!! The MLPA is agenda item #3 for Weds Oct 20. The meeting starts at 10 am. Get there before 10AM, so we can coordinate and cede time... etc..


Four Points by Sheraton
8110 Aero Drive
San Diego, CA

ROLL CALL!!!!

1. Chris
2. dmrides
3. deepdvr
4. dsafety
5. AQUATICHUNTER
6. SteveOOO
7. Dgax65
8. cowboybill
9. Fishionado
10. Old Rookie
11. PAL
12. Joe Beck
13. Kurt
14.Cabojohn
15. The Kid
16. CurtyL
17. Bluesquids
18. jbm
19. Matt
20. Tman
21. Clay
22. newguy01
23. WahooUSMA
24. Corey
25. Ohana
26. zinkysd
27. roadx
28. Tyler
29. Dan
30. C. Cary
31. dfroggy54
32. bubblehide
33. BillyV
34. Mikecollins86
35. fryguy
36. Tattuna
37. Paintnfish
38. kelpangler
39. Aquatic Hunter
40. TheLuckyPig
41. Grego
42. MVC
43. GregAndrew
44. Hatchetman
45. Hobie Shaq1
46. erinoo
47. driftwood
48. cjthomas
49. Adi
50. Zenspearo
51. kurtfish
52. sharonkayak
53. Margarita Mike
54. ???????

we're in
 

Sure its a 10 am arrival or earlier to avoid a rush?

Get there around 8-8:30am, ;) easier to figure out ceding time... so, can we count on your participation?

Bump!! Hope to see a boatload of you folks Wednesday!

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n...rCoveClaws.jpg

I am in.

cya there.

Had outpatient surgery on my foot today. Need to go back on wednesday afternoon. I plan to be there in the morning up until my appt time.

Took the day off, i'm in.

BREAKING NEWS!!! The MLPA is agenda item #3 for Weds Oct 20. The meeting starts at 10 am. Get there before 10AM, so we can coordinate and cede time... etc..


Four Points by Sheraton
8110 Aero Drive
San Diego, CA

ROLL CALL!!!!

1. Chris
2. dmrides
3. deepdvr
4. dsafety
5. AQUATICHUNTER
6. SteveOOO
7. Dgax65
8. cowboybill
9. Fishionado
10. Old Rookie
11. PAL
12. Joe Beck
13. Kurt
14.Cabojohn
15. The Kid
16. CurtyL
17. Bluesquids
18. jbm
19. Matt
20. Tman
21. Clay
22. newguy01
23. WahooUSMA
24. Corey
25. Ohana
26. zinkysd
27. roadx
28. Tyler
29. Dan
30. C. Cary
31. dfroggy54
32. bubblehide
33. BillyV
34. Mikecollins86
35. fryguy
36. Tattuna
37. Paintnfish
38. kelpangler
39. Aquatic Hunter
40. TheLuckyPig
41. Grego
42. MVC
43. GregAndrew
44. Hatchetman
45. Hobie Shaq1
46. erinoo
47. driftwood
48. cjthomas
49. Adi
50. Zenspearo
51. kurtfish
52. sharonkayak
53. Margarita Mike
54. Iceman
55. scoop
56. smokey
57. ???????

Good turnout so far, don't forget if you don't plan on speaking do fill out a speaker card anyway to cede your time for others.

Add me to the list.
John

Speaking Points:

The Watermen's Alliance crew has been working their hineys off. Speaking points are ready for everyone in the fishing community if they need it.

If you don't have a speaking point, come up to the Watermen's Alliance table and get one. Some friendly faces will be at the table.

Ceding Time/Needing time:

This aspect needs some explanation for you newbies. The Commission gives everyone a tiny amount of time based on how many public members show up. To get that time, you must fill out a time card.

There are two ways you can use a time card: To speak, or to cede time (not both).

If you want to speak and only need the tiny amount of time given to you (think one minute or two at most), then you are set.

If you want to speak and need MORE than the tiny amount of time given to you, you will need ceded time cards from others who don't speak. Come up to the WA table and get hooked up with ceded time cards.

If you don't want to speak and want to cede time cards to fishing-friendly speaker, come to the WA table, give us your time card (thank you thank you!) and your cell phone #. The speaker assigned your time card will call you and make sure each team of speaker/ceded persons is together when it's time for the speaker to speak. In some meetings, they require this so be ready to get together with your speaker to make your ceded time card count.

Three possible options. It's that simple.

General Note:

We will try something new this meeting. We will ask all ceding persons for their cell phone #s (provided on a post-it note). We will staple the post-it note to your ceding time card. The speaker given your time card will tear off the post-it note and use it to coordinate with you via the cell phone # you provided.

If you really really really want to give your time card to a particular person, then let us know but it is really hard since people wander around and we have only a small time window to coordinate hundreds of speaking cards with dozens of speakers. Pairing a particular ceding time card with a particular speaker is time consuming.

Trust us that we only dole out time cards to fishing friendly speakers.

The fishing-friendly speaker who got your ceding time card will call you on your cell to gather up all the people who ceded time to him/her. That way, when the Commission calls that speaker, all the people ceding time will know who your speaker is, and can raise their hands to support that speaker if the Commission asks (in the past, a ceding time card only counts if the person ceding time raise his hand as present at the meeting at the time his speaker comes up to speak).

Pizza, T-shirt, drinks, etc. Come to WA table. We have it set up. We'll hook you up.

Be civil, polite, and speak with reason or at least tempered and reasoned passion. Don't rant. The other side WILL truck in students. You can expect massive pro-closure turn-out as they are trying for last-minute enlargement of many areas. Many of the students have no idea why they are there except it's a freebie school trip. We think it's sleazy but be mindful that children are present. If we come across as intimidating belligerent rants, the Commissioners sympathy won't be with us for long.

curious??? if a decision is made on 10-19-10 for one of the SCRSG maps, how will that effect the maps for round 1 opel A&B maps scheduled for 9-3-11.

how long will the maps stay in place until they are re-reviewed? i see there is an SCRG scheduled for 9-10-22. so does that mean a SCRSG map will be in place for 12 years??

can someone clarify how a current decision can effect future maps?

thanks

I may be wrong, but I think you are talking about maps from 2 different sections. We had a round 1 opel group when this first started, so I assume they have a similar group for the beginning of the northern section of Ca. We are well beyond round 1 in the Southern section.

Bump

We are getting the band back together. :luxhello:

I will be speaking. If anyone likes to fish LJ, and doesn't know what to say I could use the time.

Another Bump...

Add another name to the list, Clay's friend Julian...:luxhello:

I'll be there. wouldn't miss it for the world.

I'll be wearing a tank sporting some of tattuna's amazing artwork :sifone::sifone::sifone:

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...ico_tattoo.jpg

Careful, ya might get accused of intimidation...:doh::biggrinjester:

I'll be late, but will be there!

Steve

I will be there.

Sorry guys I had to leave early for a dr appt and x-rays.
At least I got to meet a few of you.
There were some good speakers representing our community.
Didn't know we have coral reefs off our coast in San Diego :)

Good turn out, thanks everyone who showed up or spoke on our behalf.

This was my first experience with the process, I really did not understand how deceitful the enviros like cost keepers are. I was sitting in the middle of the audience towards the back where most of the bussed in students ended up.
One group, i believe from south west high, did not even know why they were there, in fact they started picking up the signs left from the waterman's alliance and started holding them up until one of their chaperons scolded them. The charter school children really showed how well informed our opposition is, These cute children brought in there dioramas of coral reefs and gave speeches on why we need to save the ones of our coast, I did not think we had coral reefs. coast keepers should be ashamed of them selves for exploiting our children and the school districts involved should be looking at disciplinary action against the teachers.

Yes - the eco nazis have exploited young children throughout this BS process.

They were literally handing out candy to the children during some of the meetings.
-Creepy

---Today I noticed at times their chaperone / guardian ( an English Teacher) had lost possession and became separated from the children.
-An offense punishable by firing.
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