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- - Mirage Drive 180 (http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/showthread.php?t=30131)

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Originally Posted by ultimatejay (Post 270780)

So 20 years of kayak fishing and he has never needed to back up? lol I've only been kayak fishing for 2 weeks and I already saw the need right away. It just seemed an arrogant response from him..... at least that's how I read it.

It's a pedal paddle thing...die hard paddle guys don't particularly like hobies or the people that own them...:eek:

So any chance they get to knock hobie down a notch, they don't waste it;)

Another thing you gotta watch out for is spelling...Pedal, peddle...you gotta get that right...otherwise your just askn for it! :cheers1:

Impressive catch there Tony!

Great Work!!

Great review, also.

Geno

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Originally Posted by ful-rac (Post 270782)

I mean you could peddle your new 180 drive to me. I'll take it for a discount. :D

Hey fulrac did you have green "grease" coming out the drive after your first use?

A few dudes on fb said it was normal for new drives but just checking again. On saturday I was pushing the drive at 5mph throughout the day with 15mph headwinds.

Dont worry about it, it's normal. Your gonna have to eventually tear the drive down and clean and re-grease everything, just like any other mechanical device.

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Originally Posted by ful-rac (Post 270782)

Really? What, are we in high school? Who gives a rats ass if someone has a pedal or paddle kayak? You're not going to like someone because they pedal? LMAO- that's the most stupid thing I ever heard! If you're like that, get over yourselves Geez. I have the upmost respect for all kayakers pedal or paddle!

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Originally Posted by ultimatejay (Post 270817)

LOL. Sad, but true.

In any case I'm still going to vote for Donald Trump, no matter what they say :P

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Originally Posted by ultimatejay (Post 270817)

WELL SAID :cheers1:

Some pedal, some paddle, some do both but we all piddle. Tight Lines.

Paddle or peddle...ITS ALL GOOD!
Both are here to stay.
Personal preference...use whatever you like.
NO disrespect here.
:cheers1:

Seeing Tony use the new mirage drive, I had a bit of envy. It does seem useful at times for making minor adjustments on the water and for actual fishing. As of now, I'll save my $$$ and just use my paddle when I want to go backwards and make minor adjustments.

Tony......It's very nice ....I wanna get a migrate 180' only but I called southwind kayak store they said they are available in March,2018:the_finger:

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Originally Posted by ultimatejay (Post 270817)

I have the upmost respect for all kayakers pedal or paddle!

With all due respect I'm having a hard time believing that you respect anyone (possibly including yourself) based on your comments in this thread.

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Originally Posted by Dannynguyen (Post 270873)

Tony......It's very nice ....I wanna get a migrate 180' only but I called southwind kayak store they said they are available in March,2018:the_finger:

When you buy...just make sure you buy at OEX! :luxhello:

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<table width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="6" border="0"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> Available now at your local OEX...but only with the purchase of a new kayak. Otherwise you have to wait until next year to purchase one. </td> </tr> </tbody></table>
always exceptions for special customers. :D

Tony got the only pair of Turbo fins I was willing to part with, Bob got ST fins, I will part with 1 or 2 more of those, but having to wait until March myself, I do not want to get caught short. The Turbo fin upgrade kit may not be available until March as well. Turbo fins only come stock with the PAs and the camo Outback.

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Originally Posted by Dave Legacy (Post 270875)

With all due respect I'm having a hard time believing that you respect anyone (possibly including yourself) based on your comments in this thread.

lol, like what comments?

How long will spare parts be available for V2 GT mirage drives?

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How long will spare parts be available for V2 GT mirage drives?

I am sure these will be around for at least the next 5 years or more.

Thank you Andy, the st 180 drive arrived yesterday less than 48 hours from order to delivery. Great service, the new drive with st fins LOOKS SMALL, I mean the FINS look small. Let now know how they work when I get back from Baja. Tight Lines.

I use turbos and ST S and like both but use the ST most of the time.

Love the 180, Would like the old MD

The 180 sounds awesome! If you replace your original with the 180 and want to sell your old one, I am super interested. I left my mirage drive on the beach in LJ during March and did't realize it until my next trip in April. My Revo isn't much fun with a paddle and an open slot between my legs!:):blush5:

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Originally Posted by ful-rac (Post 270676)

So I was lucky enough to get my hands on a new Mirage Drive 180 recently. $$$ Not cheap, but an amazing advantage that I'm willing to bet on. My initial impression of the drive is...that it's kinda goofy looking. The fins are shaped differently and not swept back like the regular drive, the fins are perfectly straight so they can pivot forward and backward. All this leading me to think that there might be some change in the thrust or overall feel while peddling...But after having used them, they are very similar if no different than the GT drive, also smooth and slick like the GT.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...psg6ntbykw.jpg

The new Drive feels much heavier than the regular GT drive. So I decided to weigh them to find out how much heavier.

Mirage Drive 180

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GT Drive

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So the 180 is approximately 6 oz heavier than the standard GT drive...it sure feels like it's more but it's not.

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The Shifting mechanism:

Now if there's one thing that feels like it could break on this new drive it's going to be the shift levers. I found that when you pedal, sometimes your foot hits it. I guess time will tell how sturdy the plastic parts are. So far they seem to work just fine...but then again I've only used them for a day.

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As far as shifting from forward to reverse with the new drive, you have to give it a good solid pull in order for it to engage. It doesn't seem possible for the drive to accidentally go into reverse while your peddling. I found that switching from forward to reverse is very difficult while moving faster than 2 knots, probably because the fins have to go sideways for a second, and you have to overcome the resistance of the water against the fins.

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Fishing with the new Drive.

So while looking for a halibut this weekend I snagged some rope and pulled up a still usable ambush hoop net...I got some cleaning to do...:eek: ! Oh and by the way I did catch a halibut as well if you didn't notice. ;)

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The ability to go into reverse is just awesome. You now have an incredible amount of control with the new drive. I knew from the first announcement of the new drive that it would be great for hooping lobster. So on my first lobster trip with the new drive later on that night, I decided to test out that theory...it did not disappoint! With wind and current blowing me around, it just made every operation faster and more efficient. Instead of having to grab my paddle or having to circle around to retrieve, deploy or set my gear, I could just back up quickly easily and hands free. For me, this reason alone justifies the cost of the new drive.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...psnryb6isn.jpg

So not a bad maiden voyage with the new drive. Nice Halibut and a limit of lobster to go along with it...?! Did I need it to catch what I caught..? No...but it sure made it alot easier and alot more fun. So watch out for the new Mirage Drive 180! Available now at your local OEX...but only with the purchase of a new kayak. Otherwise you have to wait until next year to purchase one. :cheers1:

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Thx Tony for letting me check out your 180's Friday night after you went hooping. I think I'll wait for awhile before I buy the 180's. The increased cadence didn't appeal to me to maintain my same speed. I'll wait for Hobie to come out with bigger fins for the 180's.

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Originally Posted by CrazzyGar (Post 271235)

good counter. for someone who is moving a small boat, definitely worth considering. really not sure why hobie did not try and improve the speed? that would have been a deal maker for those who are trying to get a fin bait up to 4 mph cruising speed. and yes i know that there are users here that can get the pro angler , up to 12 mph on water .

After having used the drive for a couple of weeks now...it's not just awesome to have reverse...it's really awesome to have reverse! As far as speed goes...I really don't think you get more speed, as in max speed out of this drive, but you definitely get lighter pedals out of it, which translates into being able to maintain a higher average speed. Also you are able to maintain that higher average speed for much longer periods.

Mako shark fishing :D

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Originally Posted by cabojohn (Post 270698)

Why in the heck would anyone need to peddle in reverse??:eek:
Seriously?

ME thinks Hobie screwed the pooch here...

Marketing gimmick? If yes, brilliant! :p