Yes! That would be correct! What fun would it be if you saw me or anyone else come in right side up anyways?

So far totally happy with mine. 2015 PA14. Haven't launched it out of the surf yet so will see. This is my very first kayak ever.I cant really compare it to other models. I will say this if you have the room for storage in garage then awesome, if not get something else. Also this drive system really moves. Cons so far is the front hatch is not sturdy enough to step on. I wanted to walk off the kayak yesterday, but had to go off the side instead. No biggie I'll adjust. I do like the storage hatch and love the oversized wheels to transport the unit. Comfort on the seat was a big reason why I purchased it. the Vantage system is phenomenal. I can fish all day long. Stand up if I need to stretch too.


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I like the payload on the PA. Just remove one of the custom rod holder tube rack and you can put all these fish in the front hatch.


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HEY!!! Get Yani's fish off your deck!

WarriorMike, adjust your pedals back a notch or two. Your leg shouldn't be that straight. It's MUCH more comfortable to have a bit of bend left, even at full stroke. Speaking of which, if you don't go quite full stroke, you'll avoid hull slap with the fine AND also avoid breaking the pedal shafts - without losing any power at all. I try for about 90% travel.

I have them set to 4 I think?? Should I go up to 5?

They didnt hit the hull, unless I forced it??

What?? I thought EVERYONE had a PA for easy launches, a Trident 15 for surf launches and a Scrambler for quick harbor runs???

That said, most people here get out on the water more in a month than I do in a year :mad::mad::mad:

Love the PA for easy launches, especially for hooping. It is a pain to load on top of my Envoy but I love the comfortable ride and using my legs. Bought it after a black seabass kicked my a$$ at a Baytubers gathering last summer and my arms were spasming as I paddled back in. Bastard towed me a mile out before I got him to the surface and safely released, all while the usual suspects were giving me crap on the VHF.

Trident is my go-to for launching/landing in the surf where I am just not ready to take the PA. Lots of storage that is easily accessible. Comfortable and I can stow pretty much everything before I (inevitably) get rolled on landing.

The Scrambler is for throwing on top of my Civic when I can cut out of work early and hit Huntington Harbor for an afternoon mental health session with two rods and a tray of plastics. Plan was also to get one of my kids on there in the harbor and me in the Trident or PA, but neither has shown much interest beyond my daughter wanting to ride in the PA with me.

Storage? Doesn't everyone have a mancave like this in the backyard??







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I'm not a Hobie hater or lover.

I have a question...IF your mirage drive takes a shit 6-8 miles offshore, do you call vessel assist?
Or is that just silly to take a hobie that far out?

I think they just pack a change of clothes or two?

Carry a spare drive. It also helps to have manly arms. I have paddled my PA 14 from south end of LJ back to the launch. More than once, now I pop the backup drive in.

get a revo 16 and bring the cassette so that it paddles great too :D

Greg you were so close to buying an outback this past weekend....so STFU!!! :eek:

Took my new outback to la jolla yesterday. And although I didn't christen with a yellowtail, it did paddle pretty well with the rudder up and drive out. One of the reasons I downsized.

OooooOo.oOo.oOo.

Ya know, the Prowler woulda slayed.

If they had more of a selection, I probably would have bought one.

So they didn't have papaya! Big deal! Ivory dune would have looked real good on ya!

I saw these on Rob Wong Yuen's instagram! All in good fun, so save your hate messages. .......

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I'd probably get a hobie if they didn't cost the same as a boat. Dig my x factor though, tons of storage. I just remind myself that when I'm tired of paddling, I just need to stop being a bitch and hit the gym more often.

People have paddled to Catalina, so anything is possible!

Either paddle or peddle, tuna is within our reach! Who's gonna be first?

One type won't do
 

So I'm thinking one type of yak won't do.A fisherperson needs both types, one light one for daily use and one heavy one for when your old shoulder injury flairs up. It would be fun to rig a different type. The rigging is as much fun as the fishing.:cheers1:

I would have expected you to have done an upgrade
 

I still have my PA 2014 12' for sale , maybe I will just put a minn kota on it . Good seeing you on water . Zippo for me , two days in a row . The circus must have spooked all the fish . A day late and coming up short.

I carry all the parts/tools necessary for any drive failures. They are easy to fix.

Thank you all for the feedback. Good to know you can get yourself out of a pickle if things go south offshore. (if you have spare parts / drive. Might be very worth the hassle to carry & extra costs):cool:

There is no one perfect kayak as we all have different needs and how we paddle, fish & use our kayaks.
We are lucky we have a lot of choices. Let's fish! :cheers1:

X2 you will like it

Any comments on a sail for the PA14?

Just read the entire thread and agree with pretty much every pro/ con mentioned. I started with an old OK Scupper Pro I bought off CL for $300 just to see if I'd like kayaking. Light, sleek, fast; a blast to paddle around in but zero stability for fishing. I'm maybe not the most athletic guy here and pushing 200 lbs. I rolled that thing every time I went out even in mill-pond conditions and that was on lakes, I never dared to try the ocean in it. I saw PA's on the beach, got curious and went shopping. Are you f'ing kidding me???? $$$$$$$ !!!!!! So I ended up buying a Current Designs Tailfin with stabilizing pontoons on outriggers. I felt secure enough and started fishing La Jolla but still envied those peddle boats passing by. Jumped on a killer CL deal for a PA14, I believe it is Wades old boat ? I think that's what I was told anyway. So now I have the same love/ hate relationship that some have shared here. All the things that make it great (size, weight, stability, mirage drive) are the same things that make it suck. (try loading one on top of my Astro van :() In my view it's just a mistake to even call the PA a kayak. It's a peddle boat.

I bought a trailer :cool:

Since I've benefited from this thread, I may as well contribute to it. I'm new to serious kayak fishing, and I was ready to pull the trigger on a PA 12, but I've changed my mind for the following reasons:

1) I live several hours from the coast (4 hrs from LJ), and with a toddler at home, I don't get to fish the salt as often as I'd like (I'm jealous of those that live near SD or OC). Also, I love fishing Baja, which is even further and takes more effort to get to (five hrs to calexico). So when I do get to go, I need to count on my kayak to work, and it seems like the moving parts on a Hobie reduce reliability and increase the risk of trip-ruining malfunctions. I understand I can take tools and bring Hobie spare parts yadda yadda, but that's starting to feel like more headache than its worth to me. Hearing about Tony's and other's Hobie woes in BdG also made me think twice. I feel like my chances to fish are too few and too precious to risk mechanical failure.

2) I'm hoping to buddy up and carpool for Baja trips, and cartopping two kayaks if one or both are PA's seems more problematic for transport. Lighter weight paddle kayaks appear easier to double up for cartopping.

Some other more minor things factored in (PA not permitted for mothershipping (?), Hobie surf launch challenges, Hobie cartopping a little harder even without the add'l kayak, etc.) but the top two were the main ones.

So, after researching this topic ad nauseum, I finally put an order in with Andy for a WS Thresher 140 for my first serious fishing kayak. Perhaps I'll get a PA down the road, but those were my thoughts that convinced me against the PA for now.

WS Thresher 140 sounds like a good move, dude! With all the money saved you can apply it towards quality parts.

Yeah, saving >$1700 doesn't suck either.

After all, there's a whole lot more gear to buy to get fully rigged.

Nice! My next one might be a thresher! I really like the rod storage! Perfect for those CL launches and landings. The self contained FF/ducer/battery box is sweet too!

Until this past weekend, I was a Hobie fanatic. I read this thread and was like that stuff can't happen to me.

Then sitting just beyond the breakers in LJ, I was waiting for the right time, the time came and I started stepping hard to gain speed, then POW, one pedal goes dead and leaves me hanging in the kill zone. Luckily, I picked the right time to go in and rode little ones in.

I don't like to paddle in (too slow IMO), but now I will consider changing out the chains and the idler cable more often. I guess the most tension will occur when you get on it and that means, landing, launching or racing towards a boil.

Am considering a paddle kayak now though...or at least an outback where you can paddle and peddle.

Or even pedal.