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When it's your time it's your time. Besides, how freaking cool would it be to have, Here lies so and so, he was eaten by a shark while doing something he loved.
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AK <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/cp5gdUHFGIQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Put yourself in the sharks fins. Imagine if you were sitting at home minding your own business.You get up to get a bite to ear and some jacka$$ in Tupperware comes in your house and busted a cap in your coolo. Your in his house. Respect if you cant do that fish Irvine lake. |
I have no idea while people think it's illegal to carry a pistol or any gun on a kayak or boat. It's completely legal once your on the water, just don't go into Mexican waters carrying one.
The big issue though is at the launch. While your on land you should not have the weapon on you or even loaded. If you want to carry a handgun put it in a drybag unloaded with the ammo stored in another bag. I've occasionally taken a Model 642 38 S&W with me fishing.http://www.slickguns.com/sites/defau...38-1-78-ss.jpg Don't forget to clean and oil it. As to shooting sharks the last thing I'd ever want to shoot is a protected species like a Great White. That said if I was on the water and a Great White was actively attacking my Kayak and I had a 38 with me I'd shoot it in a heartbeat. As many times as I could right in the head. Also as far as the effects of guns on sharks goes... Well I used to fish sharks all the time and we used to shoot our Makos and threshers with a 22 long rifle in the head. Maybe it didn't kill them but it would stun them to the point they couldn't do anything, For instance this Adult T fought for over and hour and drug us five miles but once we gaffed her with the fly gaff she took off so hard she almost ripped the cleat right off the boat. We shot her with the 22 maybe four times in the head and after that we had no problem pulling her back to the boat, tying her along side and cutting her gills and spinal cord. http://www.allcoast.com/photos/data/...3BGthresh3.jpg I'm not saying that anyone should carry a gun or that it's necessary but it is legal, and though I think the risk of white attack is minimal, just logistically from my experience shooting a shark definitely does have an effect on it and if you hit in the brain stem or cord it would incapacitate it. |
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Holy SH*^! Don't mess with jimday he'll bust a cap in yo' punk ass! :eek: |
FREE STATE- LAND OF THE FREE BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Remember guys: Fish here, not here: http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...ps3debf61d.png NEW MLPA ZONE: We now can only fish inside the yellow markers . By the way, congratulations, we live in the land of the free. |
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We've always talked about which weapon we would take if we were sailing the ocean blue, mostly as defense against pirates. The reality is many countries frown upon firearms on boats, entering such a country's waters with one can result in serious consequences; Mexico is one of those countries. |
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That is exactly right, when i go camping i expect to see bears. Now, if a bear approaches i'll try to scare it off. :rolleyes: If it attacks, its a different story. :doh: plain and simple That is the difference between the people who survive, and the people who do not. |
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Yup and I'll be careful of my nuts too because I'm really dumb enough to shoot my own nuts off....NOT!!! :D I gather you've never fired a 642 Airweight. I think the barrel is 1 7/8 but they are actually remarkably accurate. They also have a very stiff trigger pull so it's not like you could pull the trigger without meaning to. I've had weapons all my life and the most important rule is never point it at anything you do not want to shoot. I can't recall how many times I've discharged a weapon (too many to count), but I can tell you that I've never shot anything I did not intend to shoot. Shooting your own kayak would be pretty damn stupid, I wouldn't suggest it but you could probably fill a bullet hole in a kayak with a piece of tee-shirt in under a few minutes. Now shoot a hole through the side of your sportfisher when you've been running a chum slick for several hours...... now that would be unfortunate because in order to patch the thing you'd have to jump into the slick. Like I said I've carried weapons on the water before. Shark fisherman often carry weapons to shoot their sharks and they sure as hell know better then to shoot their own boat. |
Here in the great state of South Carolina, there is no need to carry concealed. You can carry open while on the way to, from, or during a hunt or fishing as long as you have the appropriate hunting or fishing license.
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To be honest, I'm not really a fan of handguns at all, even though I own one. While they are easier to carry around, if I am in a situation where I need to shoot something, I would prefer to shoot it at the maximum possible distance from me as possible, so I prefer something with a longer barrel, which most likely would be not concealable and off topic here. |
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It's funny how someone asks if you can carry and more than half the people here just give reasons why you shouldn't or don't need to. The question is if you can, not why would you need to. In other free states it's not even a question, it's a right and in fact common place. This state used to be that way too but the anti's here are brainwashing people into believing that guns are evil and they don't need to carry, and alot of people believe they don't even have the right.
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You're more likely to need a lightning rod or a defibrillator before needing to defend against a shark.
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A rifle is big, where are you going to put it where you can get it quick when a shark comes out of nowhere and starts chewing your leg. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-J...0/P1000357.JPG I wouldn't want to launch with that. It's not going to fit in the rod holder or even your center hatch. A handgun can be in your pocket, in a holster or in the hatch in front of you. You shoot a White ten feet away that's swimming towards you you're breaking the law. http://lunar.thegamez.net/fishingtip...ak-600x450.jpg The only reason to shoot one is if it's chewing on your yak or leg. In other words it's going to be very close. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-TN08Lc6mXs...KayakShark.jpg Maybe right next to you, maybe chewing on the yak, maybe chewing on the yak behind your seat. Ever try to shoot something behind you with a rifle?http://media.smithsonianmag.com/imag...oulder-631.jpg All this shooting under water stuff is nonsense. If I white is attacking in you end up in the water the best thing you can do is get back in the kayak. Not to mention it's one thing to shoot your favorite AK sitting on the bottom of the pool it's another to be treading water with it waiting for a white to get close enough for it to be effective. That said if you did end up in the water with a gun in your hand you better hope it's a handgun.. http://cjonline.com/sites/default/fi...002rotc237.jpg http://www.policemag.com/_Images/art...-train-5-2.jpg Balance: Paddling a kayak is a learned behavior where you master a assortment of dexterity issues like basic balance. Firing a shotgun or rifle takes a certain amount of balance not to mention the proper stance. http://assets.diyfail.com/hashed_sil...sized/fail.jpg Some Yakkers can loose their sense of balance around threatening wildlife. http://www.yakangler.com/media/kunen...er-632x272.jpg Loose your balance with a shotgun or rifle and things can go horribly wrong. http://youviewedblog.files.wordpress...lies.png?w=640 http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploa...otgun-Fail.jpg From a boat a rifle makes more sense http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/d/...-Harpoon-3.jpg but from a Kayak?.... http://www.halolz.com/wp-content/upl...ayakpaddle.jpg I'm just saying there are places rifles and shotguns don't necessarily belong.http://files.sharenator.com/parentin...114889-580.jpg |
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How about a flare gun? Would that deter a shark or piss him off like shoting a grizzly with a 9mm? No-one can argue a flare gun on a vessel.
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i think a gaff from hawaii is your best shot. The long pointy one like a spear.
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kage is safest/cheapest, then bang stick with double safety,or if you fish with team sewer get a tandem kayak with Candy in the back seat with a mask and snorkel on...when you see a big GWS then tell Candy to put her head under water for 10 bucks...:notworthy:
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What about a bang stick as last resort?
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You should be packin heat anyway for those asshole halibut that hit the deck. :the_finger:
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For those of you afraid of sharks do not fish with Marines.
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All the shark attacks on kayakers up here in NorCal (about 1 a year for the past few years) the shark has hit the kayak with no one ever seeing it. paddler gets launched a few feet in the air and shark bails after leaving a few teeth in your bow. Only in one case did the shark turn around and take a second nibble on the kayak. In these attacks nothing you can do will prevent it or help you defend against it other than not being in the water. I would rather take steps toward keeping my kayak afloat. What good is a pistole going to do when its in your kayak underwater?
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With all due respect....
(Hell, who am I kidding? Don't care if you feel respected..:D) Please don't start bringing guns on the kayak with you...couple reasons: We do not need to give the anti fishing community another reason to get our sport banned or scrutinized any more. The mental stability of many members on here makes me worry more about what they would do to another person, than what they would do to a GWS. No one should have to worry whether that psycho on the other kayak is going to pull his gun if I accidentally get a little to close to "HIS" fishing turf. Leave the guns at home boys...you'll shoot your eye out! |
Once again StinkyMatt has stumbled onto the truth. Everyone move along. There's nothing more to see here.
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