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Originally Posted by danjor (Post 176757)

My opinion: If its my time to go its my time to go. Plus its highly unlikely it will happen.

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SHARK ATTACK FACTS
Surfers accounted for 50.8% of all attacks in 2010.

Swimmers and Waders accounted for 38% of all attacks in 2010.

Snorkelers and divers accounted for 8% of all attacks in 2010.

Inflatable rafts/inner tubes accounted for 3% of attacks in 2010.
2010 was the most dangerous year for unprovoked shark attacks in a decade with 79.

Over the last half-century, there have been more unprovoked shark attacks in Florida (27 out of a total 139) between 2-3 pm than any other time of the day.

New Smyrna Beach in Florida is the shark attack capital of the world according to ISAF. It is estimated that anyone who has swam there has been within 10ft of a shark.

September is the month with the most Shark attacks in Florida (93) 1920-2010.

Since 1907 201 out 220 Great White Attacks have occurred when the human was less than 6ft from the surface.

You have a 1 in 63 chance of dying from the flu and a 1 in 3,700,000 chance of being killed by a shark during your lifetime.

Over 17,000 people die from falls each year. That's a 1 in 218 chance over your lifetime, compared to a 1 in 3,700,000 chance of being killed by a shark.

In 1996, toilets injured 43,000 Americans a year. Sharks injured 13.

1n 1996, buckets and pails injured almost 11,000 Americans. Sharks injured 13.

In 1996, 2600 Americans were injured by room fresheners. Sharks injured 13.

The US averages just 19 shark attacks each year and one shark-attack fatality every two years. Meanwhile, in the coastal U.S. states alone, lightning strikes and kills more than 37 people each year.

Since 1959, Florida has had more shark attacks (603) than lightning fatalities (459).

Since 1959, California has had more shark attacks than lightning fatalities (89/30).

Since 1959, Hawaii has had 97 Shark attacks but no lightning fatalities.

Only 5 people die from shark attacks yearly, while millions of people die from starvation.

Since 1905, Natal (where Durban is) has had 89 shark attacks and 27 fatalities.
For every human killed by a shark, humans kill approximately two million sharks.

I wouldn't base too much on these statistics. They at many times, and I think it applies in this case, apply the analysis as if the audience was part of the general population. For instance they may say that 10 people died this year as a result of a shark attack. With the US being a population of 300M you then had a 1 in 30M chance of dieing as a result of a shark attack. Reality is we expose ourselves to more risk than the general population that's characterized in these statistics. What are the chances of a homeless man that's landlocked in a Midwestern state of being attacked by a shark let alone ever seeing the ocean?

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Originally Posted by jruiz (Post 176769)

I wouldn't base too much on these statistics. They at many times, and I think it applies in this case, apply the analysis as if the audience was part of the general population. For instance they may say that 10 people died this year as a result of a shark attack. With the US being a population of 300M you then had a 1 in 3M chance of dieing as a result of a shark attack. Reality is we expose ourselves to more risk than the general population that's characterized in these statistics. What are the chances of a homeless man that's landlocked in a Midwestern state of being attacked by a shark let alone ever seeing the ocean?

Sharknado duu lol

If you shoot a great white, all your going to do is piss it off.

Worrying about sharks in our area is a little silly isn't it? I dive at night and it'd the last thing I think about. Besides by the time it got your leg the gun tucked away in a dry box is useless.

you would have to carry a very large caliber high powered rifle to even puncture the skin, or maybe a shotgun. Bullets dont work well under water at all, which is where you would be, and if your that worried stay off the water......

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Originally Posted by easyday (Post 176777)

My old boss used to say, "Always expect the worst, if nothing bad happens than it was a good day"

Yea I agree but carrying a sawed off shotgun on the yak is a bit extreme, id hate to have to clean that thing after saltwater exposure all day. Cleaning a gun that has been covered in salt water is deff no fun

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Originally Posted by easyday (Post 176777)

I know I'm new here but all I asked was a simple question as I'm ignorant on the subject and anyone would be lying if they never thought of this. But yea man after seeing the sewer bass fishing video I think ill just give away my pro angler

Now some people on here will argue with me on this but I do carry a paintball gun a little c02 powered one to deal with the seals while hooping but thats a total different subject

I got to work in Monterey for 18 months about 10 yrs ago. I started spearfishing for something to do while staying away from home. Wetsuit and all my gear was black, could only go in the afternoon/evening, and if I was lucky (because I wasn't good) I was trailing blood. A surfer was bitten just north of where I was, and thats when I found out on the radio those were the three things not to do, to avoid being attacked. I wasn't able to change a lot of what I was doing, but was definitely more aware of my surroundings. Never saw a big grey suburban swim by me. Just lucky? Loved it up there. But I'm definitely getting rid of those air fresheners!

Surprised this hasn't been mentioned before but here goes.

Carry and modified Powerhead if you are seriously concerned. As far as I know they are legal to carry when diving because only until they are mounted on the shaft of the spear are they considered a firearm and if you're mounting it, you're in danger.

Look up some more info on them because I could be wrong. You can make them quite easily, and I feel like you could easily modify one to work on a gaff.

I have a .40 Powerhead I've dove with after a Mako encounter last summer.

Additionally, you could carry a powerhead with a blank round and skip all the legal BS. The bang, and pressure alone would keep any moving creature away

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Originally Posted by ROOKIE87 (Post 176740)

Hey guys,

My question to you is if we can carry while on a kayak?

There is an exemption in the Ca PC that allows you to carry without a license while hunting and fishing, but you will also be subject to local laws and regulations.

A better place to start your search is over at CalGuns http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=271156

Yep, once on the water (public), it's 100% legal. I don't leave the house without one of mine. But I would be much more worried about land sharks, than those in the water.

Dude if you're afraid enough to carry a gun on a kayak then maybe you need a new "safe" hobby.

If a shark wants you to die, you will die, before you even realize what happened.

This just in:

A kayak fisherman bled to death off the coast of La Jolla after shooting himself in the leg. According to his fishing buddies the man was attempting to shoot a large opah swimming below his kayak which he mistook for a shark.......

I've only seen an opah once but I don't know how anyone can confuse one for a shark. I think he was just fooling around or pulled a plaxico

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Originally Posted by Fishwhisperer619 (Post 176798)

I've only seen an opah once but I don't know how anyone can confuse one for a shark. I think he was just fooling around or pulled a plaxico

Poor plaxico. The only safety he beat all year

ya'll are funny! I see people carry rifles/pistols all the time in VA..mostly to take out those big Bluefins before they get em on the boat lol

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Originally Posted by ROOKIE87 (Post 176740)

Hey guys,

Excuse me if i sound like a little B... but this last summer of fishing where whites have been poking up has put me a little on edge. My question to you is if we can carry while on a kayak? If not I was thinking about maybe buying a shark shield. What are your ideas? I thought by buying a hobie proangler I was going to be more safe, but I been hearing the peddles look like flippers in the water.

Yes
Per
"PC§ 25640. Possession by Person Engaged in Hunting or Fishing
Section 25400 (PC§ 25400. Concealed Firearm; Punishment) does not apply to, or affect, licensed hunters or fishermen carrying pistols, revolvers, or other firearms capable of being concealed upon the person while engaged in hunting or fishing , or transporting those firearms unloaded when going to or returning from the hunting or fishing expedition."

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/di...le=25600-25655

Seen plenty of sharks in my time kayak fishing and surfing in San Diego county and Baja, never even considered hauling a gun around. If a shark big enough to eat you decides to do so, it will be over before you know what hit you. When you paddle out in the ocean you take your chances in any number of ways, if you don't want to risk it, stay on shore. Probably drop the gun over the side anyways.
I do carry a sidearm when camping while kayak fishing in the Cascade Mountains because the fish smell attracts bears and cougars. Don't want to kill them but a couple rounds usually scares them off. Does that count?

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